Sonolink Studio Project

Started by sonolink on 27 August 2010. 277 replies, 2010–2015. In the Library under Build diaries. Key posts in this thread.

Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 14736.

I will probably place neoprene sheets inside them. The fit is quite tight and the neoprene should decouple, right? As promised, pics of the studio works so far. Enjoy and please comment :mrgreen:
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The main front panel was a bit of a nightmare to hang... Photos taken with iphone....sorry... All comments welcome. Cheers Sono
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Thanks Glenn :) Nearly there !!!
probably sounds a bit different now?
I still have to hang the rear wall panels but the sound has changed, yes: flutter is all gone. The room is clear and crisp, without reverb but not deafening. VERY natural so far :) This is my perception using my voice, of course. Asap, I'll plug the speakers in to have some bass going!! Tomorrow I should have the last panels hung and the ceiling done for good. I'll begin the floor and finish some door bits. Hopefully I'll be installing the gear next week... can't wait...:yahoo:
Hello again, I've been a busy bee, BUT I managed to almost finish everything. Did the last panels, floor, lights, etc...it's all done except for a few little details that I need to finish later because now I need to get mixing asap. Tomorrow I'm on tour until Sunday, but next week I hope to be able to put the gear I need, to mix two CDs for two good customers. After that I will finish the details, build the desk, etc... I should probably measure the room before I do anything else, right? Every time I've measured, I'd take several measurements from several positions of the mic around the sweet spot. Any special directions/comments on that are very welcome, as usual :) The studio looks awesome. I hope it sounds just as good when I try the speakers :) Some photos of the studio as it is right now All comments are welcome 8) Cheers Sono
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looking gooood, sono! a bit blurry btw... hehe a bit like those nude pics by david hamilton :mrgreen: cheers, carsten
I know and I apologize. They were taken with my phone...I'll post proper ones later :)
Reminds me of Close Encounters..... :lol:
oh no! you put chestnut flooring in! you'll have to start over! :twisted: yes, definitely get the speakers into the soffits and do some empty room measurements with REW (single speaker test each side, plus both speakers together, plus mic in approximate mix position and couch position) and post the data files so we can determine how the room is behaving.
:) you little devel.... Couple questions: -Shall I put the couch in the room to measure with it? Just to make sure I get it right from the start, you're saying: 1-I should place the mic in mix position 2-test each speaker separately 3-test both speakers together 4-Repeat with mic in couch position. Is this correct? Finally, should I test with the mic in one single mix and one single couch position, or should I test with the mic on several spots around the mix position and several spots around the couch? I don't have REW, but I have Fuzzmeasure. I guess it's ok, right? Cheers Sono
Fuzzmeasure works. i think it can export in a format which i can use in REW. yes, using a decent omni mic and a boom stand put the mic vertical about head height at your approx mix position, same for the couch position. no furniture or bodies in the room if possible. real minimal so we can baseline the room response which is why the individual speakers, then both, and both positions where people are most likely to be listening. we can spot any major frequency issues and any reflections which are room based. then you'll repeat this with all the furniture, desk, video and free standing monitors etc so we can spot where the things in the room have changed it. if you have a set of console speakers (NS-10 etc) then you can repeat the final testing with those just to see how mad a choice it is to put them on your console sideways instead of vertical behind it :-) plus the floor and side racks etc will surprise you the first time you see how much stuff is flying around...
Cool. Thanks Glenn, I'll get back with the data asap, hopefully this week :) I'm just back from a long weekend gigging.....hectic but great. It's 2am and I'm gonna have a beer entirely dedicated to you :) Next one is for John, and then I'll begin with each member of the forum....can't leave anyone out.....wouldn't be fair, right? So, cheers mate!!! Sono
I just found out there is a Mac version of REW, so I'll get it and use that instead :) The mic I have is the mic that came with the IK Multimedia ARC System my brother bought some time ago. Is that mic ok, you reckon? I believe it's very similar to the Behringer ECM8000 (it looks exactly the same. I tried to find out but couldn't find a way) Otherwise I could probably get hold/borrow/rent a diferent mic if you think it's worth a shot or necessary. Let me know what you think :) Cheers Sono
Sorry if I'm a pain....I downloaded REW and installed it. Then opened the manual. Got to the chapter "connections"....they talk about right to left adapters and weird stuff I guess related to home audio and hi-fi, right? I have a Macbook Pro, a MOTU Ultralite MkIII, the measurement mic I mentioned before, and I also have a Radio Shack 33-4050 analog SPL meter. How do I hook up all this please? Last post with questions of the day....promised :) Cheers Sono
Nobody?
Ok, so I tried setting up REW5 for Mac and honestly, I'm a bit lost..... I connected the Radio Shack analogue SPL meter to input channel 2 (right) and my speakers to Output channels 1 and 2. When I try to check levels, I read +/- 75dB on the meter (C weighting/Slow) but the levels on the screen are way off. All the controls are disabled (like Wave, etc) and if I want to have a 6dB max difference between In and Out Levels adjusting my soundcard's output level, my speakers sound like they gonna blow!! With the mic, more or less the same happens. I'm probably doing something wrong, but I can't figure out what it is. I've taken measurements with Fuzzmeasure. I don't know if they're helpful at all, and also, I can't figure out how to make Fuzzmeasure play the sweep through Both speakers... Anyway, here it is. Please let me know something soon....
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the adapter allows REW to calibrate itself to your soundcard. one channel drives both speakers and one channel drives itself so the application can compensate for the latency and frequency response of the card itself. basically a simple loopback on one channel and then use the other channel to feed one or both speakers. same approach is likely for FM. at a quick glance, you're about +/- 5db on the overall LF response at the mix position and you can see the ceiling-floor dip at around 75-80hz and a corresponding value at twice that frequency. the second mode might be solved by adding some mass to the back of your cloud and/or shifting its height down a bit. if you can export the FM file or get the REW working, that would be helpful. if not, can you show the ETC and the waterfall plots?
Glenn, Thanks for your help cos REW is seriously getting on my nerves. I just had another go, but each time I try to calibrate or measure I get this: "peak impulse is not where it should be. Data may be corrupted. Check impulse with scope blablabla" Any ideas?
Did you manage to import the FM file, Glenn? Cheers Sono
i have not had a chance yet. will try to do so in a day or two. backlog...
Ok, no probs. I'm loving the sound so far. Trying to get acquainted with her listening to familiar stuff :) Please let me know something as soon as you can. I'll try to avoid booking the shrink in the meantime ;) Cheers Sono
what options does FuzzMeasure have to export the data or save-as?