Indy Studios Build

Hey, I've post previously the improper way!! So, here is my attempt to post the proper way hoping I will get a better response this time!! :D I'm about to start construction on a recording studio that will consist of an A room and B room. I do not have any neighbors and Im far from any freeways or major street. I'm doing the build out in a warehouse space that consist of 1,500 sqft with metal roof, concrete floor, and metal roof. You can see the structure of the warehous in the pictures below. I have a design that you will find below and pictures. My budget is 10k!! I plan on laying wood floors in both A and B rooms, Doing double sheet rock walls, Having a glass window for the A room and just a glass door for the B room. So, if its possible I would like for you guys to help me fill in the blanks!! Thanks,

Here is a picture of the Ceiling!!

What is an A room and a B room? A lot of folks look for a control room with a tracking room...is this what you are looking for? What shape are the walls in...block...coupled sheet rock that separates you from another bay...metal? By and large the current design you have is wasting space and is in effective for musical purposes. I do not have ability to draw, per se, but I can help you get closer to your goal, if your goal is better defined. I think when you define what an A room is and a B room is to you we might all be able to get on the same page with you. In a nutshell, you want to locate the entire build in the most isolated part of this building. That means starting at the thickest wall material area and developing from there out. Please include dimensions of this room...especially the height... Your existing HVAC and electrical will push the price out of reach if you do not get these areas closer together. And then there is the thin metal roofing. You can build block walls inside but if you do not keep your mind on this "weak link" then you build it all but still the noise from airplanes and helicopters and sirens will penetrate this corrugated roof and pierce your inner framed ceilings and destroy your isolation. Brien

Brien - there's a .pdf file at the top of his post - I almost missed to also.

Thank you John. It was from that pdf file that I saw no height was included and was thinking that maybe all the rooms are too far apart. What was your thinking on that, they seem rather far apart to me, but you have better ideas and far more experience in these things than I.

xSpace wrote:

What is an A room and a B room? A lot of folks look for a control room with a tracking room...is this what you are looking for? What shape are the walls in...block...coupled sheet rock that separates you from another bay...metal? By and large the current design you have is wasting space and is in effective for musical purposes. I do not have ability to draw, per se, but I can help you get closer to your goal, if your goal is better defined. I think when you define what an A room is and a B room is to you we might all be able to get on the same page with you. In a nutshell, you want to locate the entire build in the most isolated part of this building. That means starting at the thickest wall material area and developing from there out. Please include dimensions of this room...especially the height... Your existing HVAC and electrical will push the price out of reach if you do not get these areas closer together. And then there is the thin metal roofing. You can build block walls inside but if you do not keep your mind on this "weak link" then you build it all but still the noise from airplanes and helicopters and sirens will penetrate this corrugated roof and pierce your inner framed ceilings and destroy your isolation. Brien

A Room will be the control room & B Room will be a tracking room.. The height that I'm planing for each room is 10 ft. high.. The shape of the walls will be in a block.. I believe all the dimensions of the room are there minus the height which Im planing to be 10ft.

Any help?????

looking at your drawing of your layout it appears you don't seem to know much about studio design. I suggest you read up http://johnlsayers.com/Recmanual/index.htm http://www.johnlsayers.com/Studio/index.htm

I'm not sure where the door, roller door and offices are, but with that kinda area you could have a decent sized studio.

lilith_envy wrote:

I'm not sure where the door, roller door and offices are, but with that kinda area you could have a decent sized studio.

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Thanks a lot for the Idea!! Where booth 1 is located is actually where the bay door is located. I decided to go with my design but I scratched the B room. Im about to post some photo's of the build out right now!!!

I wonder if you might want to go into some detail about those ceiling joists that seem to be, not only long as heck, but laying on their side? Where did that idea come from and what does it achieve? Are these joists tied to the upper deck roof? Do they have a splice in them and if not, exactly how long are they? I need a picture with a more close up shot to get anything out of that :) Brien

( Damn! you beat me to it, Brien! I had a post ready to send about those joists, but then I saw yours!!! ) :) - Stuart -

And as per his design, everthing is flanking! Why bother sometimes :blah:

The build is going way too fast, there doesn't seem to be any detailed design at all, and there are some very questionable construction practices going on (EG. what kind of span are those "4x2 joists" trying to cover, sideways, and what kind of load are they going to carry??? Single top plates??? Door and window headers???). This does not bode well... - Stuart -

lilith_envy wrote:

And as per his design, everthing is flanking! Why bother sometimes :blah:

I ask that to myself a lot ;)

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The build-out is coming out very good!! I see a lot of you guys had questions about the build-out, but I have a guy that has built dozens of studios for big time artist and record labels such as Jay-Z & Beyonce, Laryn Hill, Usher, and on and on I can go. So I trust his judgement!!

The ceiling joist are still laying on there side...... I wonder if beyonce has her building licence? Can you post the new layout you are currently working off

lilith_envy wrote:

The ceiling joist are still laying on there side...... I wonder if beyonce has her building licence? Can you post the new layout you are currently working off

Yes, we do have our building license! If you look close enough you will see y they had to start the build with them being on their side and if you look at the other pics you will see that it all was done correctly and to code..

The spans look like there 2.5m or more. What stops the joist from saging in the middle? I'm not busting your balls, just trying to help. There are a lot of ppl in the world that get by saying there one thing when there clearly not. Building studio and building a safe structure are to very different things. Good luck though. If you have a plan I'd still like to see it

lilith_envy wrote:

The spans look like there 2.5m or more. What stops the joist from saging in the middle? I'm not busting your balls, just trying to help. There are a lot of ppl in the world that get by saying there one thing when there clearly not. Building studio and building a safe structure are to very different things. Good luck though. If you have a plan I'd still like to see it

I know you not busting my balls.. I like the fact that you are trying to make sure the build is going properly and safely!! :lol:

I totally agree with Lilith: How can those joists be lying on their sides, span such a long distance, and still safely support the huge mass of drywall that should be hanging from them? I can't see that happening. I'm also wondering what you did to eliminate the major flanking issues that Lilith mentioned some time ago. There is no way a flanked wall will isolate well, no matter who the builder claims to have built studios for in the past. Flinging around big names wont defeat the laws of physics... - Stuart -

Soundman2020 wrote:

I totally agree with Lilith: How can those joists be lying on their sides, span such a long distance, and still safely support the huge mass of drywall that should be hanging from them? I can't see that happening. I'm also wondering what you did to eliminate the major flanking issues that Lilith mentioned some time ago. There is no way a flanked wall will isolate well, no matter who the builder claims to have built studios for in the past. Flinging around big names wont defeat the laws of physics... - Stuart -

The flanking issue was solve! For some reason or another he started the build out with the joist laying on their sides but he didnt finish with the joist on their sides. Look at the pic>>>>