Again...You guys are probably sick of me

This is the latest design for my attic (sorry for crude drawing)...I am looking for a big nice (as long as possible) mixing room that can double as a tracking room. I created that alcove in the back to maintain length in the room. It would be filled with hangers. The whole back wall (including doors?) would be covered in 703. The front corners and sides would be slots. 1. Is the bass trap alcove in the back weird? Does having that extra length to the room help even if it is a fairly narrow extension? 2. Does this design look good? Thanks, Richard

Are you to scale? If so, what is the size of that vocal booth? Sure looks small. The hangers in the back are fine. But it looks as if you are making them about 4 foot deep since they are the same depth as your Iso Booth. Thats not a bad thing, just using a lot of space. With such low ceilings this will be your only sub traps in the room. You could angle and share with the Iso booth, giving you various depth in the trap for dif. Freq. Values and traping. I'd angle the wall in the Iso booth that is next to your hanging traps so you dont have two like angle (avoid Flutter echo) walls. you could angle the wall into the back half of your hanging traps by about 18 - 24", fill it with hanging traps that vari in width then frame out a new fake straight wall where you have the one now and 703/fabric cover it. This would give you some great bass traping in the Iso booth without sacraficing space in your room. I guess I am a bass trap freak. I have worked in a lot of rooms that where built great but Hanging traps left out. It doesn't make for a very flat sounding and feeling room. That's about my 2 cents. John over in the design side is the best bet for real world angles and design ideas for the rest of the room. He seems to find a whole nother Iso rooms worth of space when he redesigns for ya :D Hope this has helped. jai www.themixstudio.com

I am not exactly to scale...but the iso wasn't really intended to be a vocal booth...more of an amp closet or equipment storage...or a temporary location for scratch vocals. I really only made the booth to match the angle on the other side of the room that was necessary to accomodate my stairs. I have angled the walls though to make the booth more usable. I have also made the angles more steep in order to increase the inside area of the iso. The dotted rectangle is (and this is good news) a 16' x 8' area where I am going to raise the ceiling higher into the attic. I hope this isn't hard to visualize. There will be a slight rising slope from above the mix position back to the middle dotted line...then it will slope back down. The joists will remain. But I will fill this ceiling area with hangers and then cover with 703 and cloth to keep the exposed joists from doing anything weird. One more thing...I am going to use the area in between the soffits as a computer closet. The "closet" will occupy the bottom half of the vertical area. There will be a small duct (I've drawn a little circle) to vent the computer closet into the attic. I will have a small fan in there pulling the air out. This leaves me with a 3' or so deep alcove in between the soffits for some kind of use. Here are the questions: 1. Is it wrong to have an alcove between the soffits? Will this mess anything up? 2. If it is okay, what would you do with it? Hangers? Slots? A place to put monitors? Thanks, Richard

That's actually a pretty good design. Using the notch in the back is a pretty good idea, I think- since you've gotta shape the back that way for the stairs, what better to put back there than bass trapping? And in a space of that shape, yeah hangers are the best thing to put there. You could close that area off with 703 covered with fabric, but if you get a lot of people coming thru there, you may want to protect it from someone putting their hands thru it (I plan on using expanded metal sheet for this, like the front of a guitar cabinet- Jai gave some good advice regarding this). Anyway, same thing for the area in front. If you have a fan pulling air out of the computer box, you may want to put a supply and return air duct into there; even with just one fan moving air around, this'll make your computer much more comfortable. And yeah, use the remainder of that space for hangers/bass trapping. Having odd notches and alcoves in your room isn't a bad thing. Just try to keep them symmetrical around the long axis of the room, so your stereo image remains equal. Since both the oddities of your room design are right on the centerline, this should be easy for you. Looks pretty good so far! Kase www.minemusic.net

Here is a slightly updated picture. The green areas were going to be slots. The red areas were to be broadband absorption (hangers in the deep area...703 on the other surfaces). The red lines above the middle of the room indicate the hangers that will be in the area above the ceiling. The computer box will have a duct going up into the attic space with a fan up in there to draw air through. The intake for the computer box will likely be a small vent in the ceiling of my living room below. :) The thing I like most about this design is that I can build it in a piece-meal fashion. Starting with the fron alcove and working my way back. I should see improvement in my room with each step. Are there any other opinions? I thrive on criticism. :wink: Thanks, Richard

Try this ;) The speakers are correct in this one. cheers john

That looks nice John, but I have a couple of concerns: 1. That takes away a great deal of floorspace, making it more difficult to make the room serve double duty. 2. What was wrong with the speakers in the other design? I had planned to keep them in the nearfield. Thanks, Richard