Flush Mounting Monitors?

Hello. I was wondering how people normally flush mount monitors? What type of structure do you build in your wall in order to flush mount the monitors and what materials do you use to line the hole that the monitors are placed into. I was wondering if heavy duty materials such as concrete (lined with rubber) were needed to enclose the monitors in order to isolate them from the free standing inner room structure in irder to cut down any stucture transmission and normal transmission. Are there any tutorials on this. I had a look at the reference list and was unable to see any. Not that I am complaining. :-) As am very pleased with the valuable information that I have found on this site. Anyway, I apreciate any help. Cheers

There's a whole bunch of threads on soffit mounting (another name for flush mounting), that covers practically all your questions. Try using the search feature for "soffit mount", and you should find a ton of stuff. Here is just one of MANY threads that I recall: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=66 - Stuart -

Thanks Stuart for help. I shall have a read. I guess I have reproggrammed myself not to use the word soffit because of the amount of emphasis that Philip Newall (in his book) puts on not calling flush mounting soffit mounting. Anyway, thanks again for help. Cheers

Soffit (from French soffite, Italian soffitto, formed as a ceiling; directly from suffictus for suffixus, Latin suffigere, to fix underneath), in architecture, describes the underside of any construction element. Mr. Newell understands the importance of the right word in the right context.

In the original Hidley QUAD rooms the rear speakers were mounted over the soffit for the tape recorders under the speakers. Hence the term soffit started to emerge. The correct IMO name is flush mount as the speaker is mounted flush with the front wall.

Thanks, I didn't mean to sound anally retentive, as i know some people (often sound engineers and not musicians) enjoy making mountains out of mole hills when it comes to nit picking. Just thought I would mention, as think that in the world of acoustics, it is important to use exact terms so as readers do not get confused because a misunderstanding could lead to a bad design which would effect the room acoustics. I am still very thankful for the help given. I have now decided to install passive monitors in my studio, as this will allow me to enclose the monitors in boxes that have little or next to no air ports for circulation which should help me achieve a higher level of isolation. :-) Thanks again.

John Sayers wrote:

In the original Hidley QUAD rooms the rear speakers were mounted over the soffit for the tape recorders under the speakers. Hence the term soffit started to emerge. The correct IMO name is flush mount as the speaker is mounted flush with the front wall.

Difficult to tell how language migrates, the soffit mounting of speakers, back in the day, were in what could be classified as an overhead/attached to the ceiling and horizontal...soffit :) I do not know of Hidley except through your work, but it surely must be a part of the original soffited type supports. Surely the problem developed when some fast talking general contractor with a recording studio bent thought "soffit" to mean <anything in any vertical or horizontal position that is encased> without any understanding of what the word soffit means/represents. Then that was supported by the mean average sixth grade level of education we now enjoy that refuses to look into anything any deeper then twitter.com :) "Find your meaning."

I think that the Hidley refers to Tom Hidley, I have just read a chapter in Philip Newell's book on Non-Environmental control rooms and he mentions Tom Hidley several times. . He mentions that "the studio designer Tom Hidley, has been pursuing techniques of controlling room modes down to frequencies as low as 10hz for his Hidley Infrasound rooms." (p414 Recording Studio Design by Philip Newell). . I am interested in Tom Hidley in particular because his research and development relates to the development of techniques or application of technology/materials that can make small rooms suitable for use as non-environmental control rooms. . Philip Newell continues to say in his book the following, which I find very interesting... "but some of the processes involved in achieving this very low absorption lend themselves to the control of the more 'audible' low frequencies in much smaller rooms. (p414 Recording Studio Design by Philip Newell). . I could be wrong regarding the suffit reference though, although this would be a big coincidence that two people of the same uncommon surname were to be both leaders in the field.