Tiny mixing/control room

Started by Atutodidact on 28 August 2009. 10 replies.

Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 13548.

Hi everyone, I'm bran new here. I've got my bedroom that I want to turn into a mainly mixing room. I have a sketchup of the rough dimensions in case anyone wants to see and possibly make some suggestions on treatments. I kind of did some minor things on the desgin, but nothing has been started. Let me know what you think. EDIT: I updated the sketchup file slightly.
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Read the forum and read the stickies. Your question was answered many times. There are layouts of acoustic treatment for bedroom studios all over this place. Come on
An autodidactic person is simply a "self taught" person, usually acknowledged to be at a higher than average level of skill in the chosen arena of learning :) Atutodidact....your spelling needs much improvement :)
xSpace wrote:
An autodidactic person is simply a "self taught" person, usually acknowledged to be at a higher than average level of skill in the chosen arena of learning :) Atutodidact....your spelling needs much improvement :)
I typo'd and couldn't change my screen-name. "Autodidact-noun: a person who has learned a subject without the benefit of a teacher or formal education; a self-taught person." Also, if people really benefited the most from reading only the stickies, then wouldn't there not be a need for forums? All that would exist would be web-pages with stickies and no form of pitching a specific inquiry with answers directed at specific dimensions and circumstances. Is the design of rooms and acoustic treatments unlike music and songs in that they require unique, un-generalized molding and manipulation to achieve an end result which is appropriate for the individual work? This place is anti-helpful. Have a good one guys.
The thing is there are many subjects that have been covered A LOT of times, so it isnt fun anymore. Its like going into a music forum and ask "hey, whats a G major?" Furthermore, we appreciate your effort into designing something so we could suggest and improve. So it would be a good idea for you to start reading, post a proposed layout for treatment, and then we can comment. But we WONT do the homework for you. At least show us some effort into learning the bassic, then we can comment Cheers
jbassino wrote:
The thing is there are many subjects that have been covered A LOT of times, so it isnt fun anymore.
If that is the case, what is the point of being here and hanging out here if the purpose of this place is not fun to you anymore? I used the search feature, I read stickies, but I don't have enough leisure time to dedicate to reading such massive amounts of information, like you wish every newbie did, before asking a question that has never been asked and answered before. Lighten up.
Where do you live, geographically speaking, atuto? edit: Nevermind...this is typical American behavior. Believe me, I did it too :)
A bedroom is limited for several reasons not the least in that it does not have the cubic footage to get the acoustic feel of a spacious area. You wind up being limited in what you can do, but it is the same thing that will be suggested for any room in general, it is mostly an "all you can do" proposition for a small room. Since so much was left out of your introduction, dimensions of the area, how much you will spend, who is doing the work, where you live geographically speaking etc, I will skip isolation (sound proofing) since it is more costly overall and requires the use of products specific to a region of the Earth, based on where you may live :) Your monitoring position will usually be in the narrow side of the room. If your room is 8 feet by 12 feet then you would have your monitors backed up to the 8 feet long dimension. Theoretically you would locate a place somewhere at 38 percent of the 12 feet back from the hard boundary your speakers are backed up to and attempt to establish an equilateral triangle with your two monitors and your head. This is mostly not even worth the effort in a small room but at least is a reference to let a person know not to get crowded up against the wall :) You have to locate the first reflection points in this acoustic environment and build broad band panels to be placed at these First Reflection Points to stop the reflections that the parallel walls are creating. I know they are parallel because it is a typical American bedroom and I am a typical American who has been in a lot of these bedrooms. You can easily establish these points in theory by installing a ceiling to floor 3 foot wide X 3 inch deep panel directly in front of you in the center of the wall and directly behind you in the center of the wall. Do the same thing to the left and right of your sitting position centered on your ears and a little toward the rear of the room. Build an overhead cloud, take up the carpet on the floor. It's there...don't argue with me ;) You can build corner bass absorption panels and install them in your, at the very least, front corners directly behind those monitors we talked about up topic. Maybe a few in the rear of the room will help, but I have no proof in a small room this is really worth the effort. Typical building insulation that you see at Lowe's or Home Depot will work for what you are doing.
Atutodidact wrote:
...but I don't have enough leisure time to dedicate to reading such massive amounts of information... Lighten up.
The little post I gave you above took me about 8 years, overall, of MY LEISURE time. If it were easy you would not be here but because it is very difficult you are. So to quote, hopefully, a new associate, lighten up.
Its not fun to write something that could take you 2 minutes of searching. What you are asking, is exactly explained in John's recording manual. Everything about first reflection points, etc is there And everything X's has said is a good starting point. then do the homework And second, if you don't have the time to read the basic information posted here, why should I use mine to help you?