I cant get a respomse in the acoustics thread so I hope you dont mind that I post this here.
If I want to do both mixing and recording in the same room. A small room in my house anout 8 x 12 or 12 x 15. Which of the following wall treatments would be better:
1. Hanging 3 or 4 auralex 2' x 4' panels.
2. Covering 80% to 90% of the wall space with various size barrel diffusers.
Thank you
Small room question
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 13241.
You need absorption for sure, unless you want a reverb room??
Difussion won't make your room sound more dry, so if you stand in your room right now, without any treatment and empty space. clap your hands and tell me how much of that decay you want? Probably a lot less.
So start adding absorption, and put panels until 1- you think you're good 2- measure your room to SEE how it sounds
People should use their ears too, its pretty easy to determine wether your room suddenly became an anechoic chamber or it sounds like a church, but dont forget to relay as well on accurate measurements done by a software and a decent microphone.
You did not answer the question. I am not beginner. I have built three professional studios.You need absorption for sure, unless you want a reverb room?? Difussion won't make your room sound more dry, so if you stand in your room right now, without any treatment and empty space. clap your hands and tell me how much of that decay you want? Probably a lot less. So start adding absorption, and put panels until 1- you think you're good 2- measure your room to SEE how it sounds People should use their ears too, its pretty easy to determine wether your room suddenly became an anechoic chamber or it sounds like a church, but dont forget to relay as well on accurate measurements done by a software and a decent microphone.
If you built 3 professional studios, so why are you asking such questions? :?:
Like I said before, you can't just cover 80% of the room with diffusors if you're gonna mix in that room. That wont flat out any low end resonances.
Difussors are more a pshychoacoustic effect and dont necessarily change or help your frec response.
So again, you need absorption!
The question is which would you do if you had the choice.
I am looking for the more experienced people to answer.
Like maybe Ethan if he is available.
:roll:
Well you're welcome then
And I did answer the question 2 times
I missed it. Was your answer #1 or #2?The question is which would you do if you had the choice. I am looking for the more experienced people to answer. Like maybe Ethan if he is available.
You need absorption for sure
So again, you need absorption!
Like Javier said: That's a very small room. It will need lots of bass trapping, which is best done with large volumes of thick absorption, such as fiberglass or mineral wool. Diffusion in small rooms is not useful. It works well in large rooms, but not small ones. Also: 8x12 would probably not be a good ratio. I guess the height is also 8?A small room in my house anout 8 x 12 or 12 x 15.
if it's for a tracking room then ratios don't matter, right?
Probably not
The ratio isn't in question, or shouldn't be, it is the two dimensions of the room that are equal, e.g. walls are 8 feet tall and one of the wall lengths/run is 8 feet.if it's for a tracking room then ratios don't matter, right?
wrong, every room needs good ratios... but don't get too exited if your room isn't the golden type... work with what you got. Tho, square rooms have very bad ratios. If you can, somehow, avoid that (like X mentioned) then you'll be in the "save" zone.if it's for a tracking room then ratios don't matter, right?
If those were really the only two options, I'd get a good set of headphones and a super-size prescription for industrial-strength antidepressants. :shot: Thicker panels of denser material (the oft-recommended 4" or thicker panels of rigid fiberglass or mineral wool covered in breathable, fire-resistant fabric spaced 2" or more off the wall, beginning by straddling wall-wall and wall-ceiling corners and at 'first reflection points' on the walls and ceiling, and then spot-treating other surfaces to combat parallel-wall flutter echoes and standing waves) would be so much better than foam or cardboard. Auralex will just muffle the highs and exacerbate the other problems, and 'barrel diffusers' aren't as in vogue in larger designs as they once were, and aren't too useful in rooms that small (and more than anything, would just take up space on the walls that you need to use for the other types of treatment). And try to win whatever argument you have to to get the bigger of those two rooms - especially if the ceiling height is also 8'. :mrgreen:The question is which would you do if you had the choice.