Any thoughts for a design of this. I am considering renting a 20x20 ish space which needs no soundproofing but would like to add an amp/iso booth and a storage closet to make a hybrid control / drum tracking room with an amp inst iso. The room has a cieling that slopes in one direction from about 9 to 15 feet, and has rafters filled with r30 and covered with FSK. Questions: what orientation is best for the mix position in terms of the roof angle? What are the ideal locations for the amp booth and storage? In front of the mix position, behind, or to one side? Anyone with a single room garage design to share is welcome to post. Thanks!
Hybrid Control Tracking Room
Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 13191.
Have a couple crude mockups, feedback appreciated. I will of course treat with traps and diffusers all area to suit esp to compensate for the paralell walls in the tracking room.
External image, not preserved — original: http://homepage.mac.com/skylabfilmpop/studio_mockup_a.jpg
External image, not preserved — original: http://homepage.mac.com/skylabfilmpop/studio_mockup_b.jpg
If you could find a happy medium with the cieling height.
How about something like this.
Or this.
Thanks for the response. it seems to me the cieling slope is best dealt with longitudinally though , yes? I have several; 4x6x2" ceiling clouds I can use to tune the area over the workstation. So if I placed the mix are at the high or low end of the room i can manipulate the are for the nearfields to a pretty good degree. Also in my current room the door sits to the left (and behind) of the monitors. Most pro built rooms I have been in have a door on the wall behind the monitors, I don't know which is different or better. My goals here include inexpensive and easy construction, ie as few walls as possible to build. excessively thorough construction Double frame, floated floor etc) is not necessary as I am currently working sans drums in the second bedroom of my home with a treated walk in closet as an amp room and use low wattage guitar amps. This is a space that will be a month to month rental without a lease so construction costs need to be low. My goals also include creating a room to track drums in that will have as much volume as possible to avoid a drum sound that sounds like its in suspension. I have my own kits so I can dial in and trial and error tones , so a separate drum booth is not necessary. Should I just create two booths along one side of the room making a rectangle out of the square, and treat with diffusors or gobos to symmetrically break up parallel walls?
Yeah, so use my 1st drawing but spin it 90dec to the left.
Booth one will have a low ceiling and booth 2 will be higher.
You will have to start thinking about reflections on the booth side of your mix position, that will not be on the other side.
So maybe no glass, just standard sealed doors with a little port hole.
here's a variation on that layout.
John
I appreciate the input. I think that design commits the drums to an iso booth which I prefer not to do as I frequently play them. Important to me is getting an open drum sound without hearing the suspension you get from a small booth. I know that I will have to trial and error mic placement but I think its an acceptable tradeoff. Additionally a less claustrophobic main/Control room is my desire as well. Its also complex in its build and requires significantly more walls to be erected than I have budget or inclination for. One of the phenomenons of the music industry now is that the margins are microscopic. Here in LA I can get a fantastic studio for less than $500 USD a day and a lot of the mid level rooms are closing and two of the greats are shifting their focus to Sample library creation, one having been bought by East West. My work is mostly composing and in that I earn about $5k-10k for a 60-90 minute program. I only get a few of these a year and they usually take me six weeks to two very long months to complete. In the interim I get a few licenses and sessions as an instrumentalist, live performances. I would like to add the income stream of producing or tracking local bands as well. A friend of mine has a picture on his web site of Josh Freeze tracking drums for Michelle Branch's record a few years ago. His drum kit is right next to the dining table! Again another sign of the massive correction/Adjustment in the music industry, so that in mind I have to stay financially lean. Heres a couple new pics.
The first is a conformation of my original design except the common wall of the two iso's angles away from the listening position with a 6 inch rise between the two ends. I have also added a similar wall on the other side for symmetry. Let me know if you see any pitfalls with this layout.
the second picture is the layout of the room as it already is. There is a booth that takes up nearly 2/3 of the space. This booth has a low cieling as the room had rafters throughout at just under 9'. Ideally I think I would like to conform this booth to make my Isos Let me know if you have any thoughts. Thanks!
External image, not preserved — original: http://homepage.mac.com/skylabfilmpop/studio_mockup_c.jpg
External image, not preserved — original: http://homepage.mac.com/skylabfilmpop/studio_mockup_d.jpg
Another thought, How effective would installing graduated thickness treatments along the side walls instead of building an angled wall be?
External image, not preserved — original: http://homepage.mac.com/skylabfilmpop/studio_mockup_c.jpg
Yeah I like the last one.
Does the door have to be there? Are there options?
You will never be able to soffit mount your monitors
Thanks Deanna
When I buy a set of Westlakes I'll probably be able to afford to move the door!
Would it be more advantageous to keep the last layout, but rotate the console and drum placement 180°, so that the existing ceiling height slopes up as you go from the 'mix position' end to the 'drum kit' end?
Then you might move the two "iso booths" over to the left-hand side of the above layout, so that you enter the main room through one of the "booths" - which is now also your "airlock" - leaving enough clearance for trapping in the corners of the main room, and thinking about placement of doors to the two 'booths' in relation to where 'first reflection' points are going to be (of course, you could always put panel traps on the doors themselves...)
Just make sure that you've figured out clearances to get anything large (desks, pianos, 4' x 8' drywall sheets) around the corner if you do that. :mrgreen: