9 foot ceiling

Started by PJ Bass on 19 January 2009. 5 replies.

Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 11600.

Built a room 33' L x 14' W x 9' H. The ceiling has an angle of 4' w x 21' L in the center of the ceiling. What was done: 2x2 was run the 21' length at the center of the ceiling, 4'x8' sheet of 1/4 drywall was centered and attached to the 2x2, the sides were bent upwards to meet the ceiling. The room is empty, no carpet. Concrete floor. The reverberation and echo have been taken down severly by the angle on the ceiling, altho there is some bounce, I know I'll need bass traps and mid traps 703 rigid is the plan. I wish the room to be live vrs dead. Intend to record digitally with live dubs. Q: should I use carpet or wood on the floor? I feel if I use carpet the sound will be too dead and If I use wood I can at least control the reflections with rugs. With respect; Rick/PJ Bass
Q: should I use carpet or wood on the floor? I feel if I use carpet the sound will be too dead and If I use wood I can at least control the reflections with rugs.
Yep, most people recommend wood flooring, absorption on the ceiling, and rugs if it is too live. But read here: on this post for more info on posting here. - Stuart -
Didn't help a bit Stu, thanks, but no thanks
Read it (again) and it will, indirectly...
PJ Bass wrote:
should I use carpet or wood on the floor?
This is from my Acoustics FAQ:
The following is from an exchange that took place in the rec.audio.pro newsgroup in May, 2003: Bill Ruys asked: Why it is recommended to have bare (un-carpeted) floors in the studio? One web site I visited mentioned that a bare floor was a prerequisite for the room design with diffusors and absorbers on the ceiling, but didn't say why. I'm trying to understand the principal, rather than following blindly. Paul Stamler: Carpet typically absorbs high frequencies and some midrange, but does nothing for bass and lower midrange. Using carpet as an acoustic treatment, in most rooms, results in a room that is dull and boomy. Most of the time you need a thicker absorber such as 4-inch or, better, 6-inch fiberglass, or acoustic tile, and you can't walk around on either of those. Hence the general recommendation that you avoid carpet on the floor and use broadband absorbers elsewhere. Lee Liebner: the human ear is accustomed to determining spatial references from reflections off of side walls and floor, and a low ceiling would only confuse the brain with more early reflections it doesn't need. Everywhere you go, the floor is always the same distance away from you, so it's a reference that your brain can always relate to. John Noll: Reasons for having wood floors: they look good, equipment can be rolled easily, spills can be cleaned up easily, provide a bright sound if needed, sound can be deadened with area rugs. Ethan Winer: In a studio room, versus a control room, a reflective floor is a great way to get a nice sense of ambience when recording acoustic instruments. Notice I said reflective, not wood, since linoleum and other materials are less expensive than wood yet sound the same. When you record an acoustic guitar or clarinet or whatever, slight reflections off the floor give the illusion of "being right there in the room" on the recording. It's more difficult to use a ceiling for ambience - especially in a typical home studio with low ceilings - because the mikes are too close to the ceiling when miking from above. And that proximity creates comb filtering which can yield a hollow sound. So with a hard floor surface you can get ambience, and with full absorption on the ceiling you can put the mike above the instrument, very close to the ceiling, without getting comb filtering. Dave Wallingford: I've always preferred wood floors for a few reasons: 1) It's easier to move stuff around, 2) You can always get area rugs if you need them, And the main reason: 3) Pianos sound like crap on carpet.