The studio of my dreams, but what about it's soffit mounts?

Hi everyone, I found these pics of this studio, which is just dreamy. I have one question though if anyone can answer it. I'm really curious if their monitors are ok like that. Can Monitors be soffit mounted in glass????? What are the complications if you do that? I'm in the middle of my studio's construction, and i'm thinking to make an all glass wall very close to this for my control room( the width of my control room is 3.4m so that entire glass pane will cover the control room's width. I'm also intending to make a door in the middle. Whats your opinion on the matter?

If you can afford the glass for the window, you can afford a studio designer. That was studio was designed WSDG. They do everything from full commercial studios down to home studio projects. They have an office in Switzerland. Use them. www.wsdg.com Andre

wow their work is mind blowing, but i can't really afford a studio design as well. I'm willing to go a bit over the board with the materials. But I'll try to do whatever i can by myself.

vakis wrote:

Can Monitors be soffit mounted in glass?????

It also shows that a three leaf can be used and no one dies.

sorry I'm not familiar with any three leaf legends :)

xSpace wrote:

vakis wrote:

Can Monitors be soffit mounted in glass?????

It also shows that a three leaf can be used and no one dies.

Of course. The point with greater than 2 leafs is that the TL lower than what would be achieved with 2 and the amount of mass. It requires more material and proper design. Notice in the first image that one gap is ~twice as large as the other. This separates the MAM points by half an octave. In this specific case the isolation to the live room is from 2 sources, not just the control room. The first two leafs, going from live room out, are the isolation from the loudest source, the speakers. Andre

lol, i thought of an irish three leaf clover:P lame..

how do you think glass affects the sound of the monitors? Shouldn't there be resonators below them?

It looks to me like that is a three-leaf window! Why would they do that? It looks cool, but what about the acoustics?

Soundman2020 wrote:

It looks to me like that is a three-leaf window! Why would they do that? It looks cool, but what about the acoustics?

Which is why I said what I said ;) Soundman, read AVares post.

Would really thick normal glass be enough for such a construction? Would thick laminated glass be better for such a purpose? How much difference would these 2 make? Just thinking that laminated glass of that thickness would be very expensive, but anything to make the view and spaciousness better for my small studio.

Which is why I said what I said Wink Soundman, read AVares post.

Ooops! :oops: That's what I get for opening the thread, going to eat dinner, and not refreshing when I got back before I replied! :oops: Besides, whoever heard of six back-to-back posts inside of an hour, in a single thread on this forum? Yeah, that's my excuse! You guys will just have to slow down with your posts, so I can catch up! :) Sorry 'bout that! But seriously, I'm surprised and interested in those three leaves. I wonder how well it works, and if they have resonance issues.

Soundman2020 wrote:

It looks to me like that is a three-leaf window! Why would they do that? It looks cool, but what about the acoustics?

I wrote about the three leaf design. I wrote why, two sources to isolate from. The two being the speakers and the control room itself. If are looking at doing this yourself, the design calculations for a triple leaf wall are in Long's Architectural Acousitcs and the originating document for the equations is Sharpe, WR 73-5R. you are getting the realm of stdio design where the design factors involved are practically unknown at the amateur studio design level. If Long and Sharpe are too technical for you to use, then a professional studio designer is a must, not an option. The calculations involved are too complex for the average studio builder. From reading your other posts, you are asking for help in designing a Formula 1 Ferrari while not familiar with Volkswagen design. Andre

If Long and Sharpe are too technical for you to use, then a professional studio designer is a must, not an option

I'm not very experienced with the subject of Acoustics and I'd love to have a designer do this to save me the trouble, but the matter is that i have limited funds to spend, which funds are basically an investment from one of my partners, so the situation is tight. I will study as much as i can to see if this type of construction is possible by me and then decide whether to go with that, or a more traditional, safeproof method. In the meantime I'd love to hear anything else you have to say on the matter. cheers and thanks

that seems like a nice book btw, I'm buying it now :D

Good luck with your project Yakis. Get Gervais' Home Studio: Build it like the Pros and Everest's Master Handbook of Acoustics also. Soundman: Here is a link to the document on triple leaf equations. http://www.box.net/shared/jcaoavdc8g. You are getting into the deep end of acoustics now. Congratulations and condolences. :D Andre

Thanks:) it's Vakis btw:P, I've ordered the first book. I have the second one and i also have Alton Everest's Sound studio construction on a budget. The Master Handbook of Acoustics really intimidates me, but I'll give it my best :roll: I'm also searching for a distance learning degree or diploma about acoustics, do you happen to know any? I know Salford in the Uk has a great course but it starts in September and I'd like something to start now. It's the perfect opportunity to push myself and get a degree as well :D

I graduated From the SAE Institute but the Acoustics courses only took about a month to end, and you can't cover that much in a month. I love studio building and the theories of Acoustics, but i've always had to get my math better :) anyways thanks again for your advice cheers Vakis

Here is a link to the document on triple leaf equations. http://www.box.net/shared/jcaoavdc8g. You are getting into the deep end of acoustics now. Congratulations and condolences. Very Happy

Oh WOW! Deep end, indeed! But fascinating! I'm just taking a look at it now, and it looks like I have some heavy reading ahead. Thanks, Andre! Appreciated! - Stuart - (PS. Does this mean that I can put a third leaf in my wall now? :) Just kidding! )

A friend told me that double glazed windows are created with a vacuum between them, is that possible?

I've read that a vacuum is created in double glazed windows, wow didn't know that... Do you think that they've created a vacuum in this case? how is it possible if it's not a specific aluminium window construction? I'm thinking of making the construction on my own, but im clueless about the vacuum aspect :roll: