Fixing wall frames without drilling into floor/wall/ceiling

Started by Sigert on 15 March 2008. 4 replies.

Originally posted at johnlsayers.com, topic 10332.

First of all, I'm not thinking of floating floors or walls or anything like that. Is it possible to set up a set of insulating walls without actually attaching (=screwing) the frames to the floor/wall/ceiling? There'd be two rooms made inside a concrete basement: control room and live room. The control room is a box-in-a-box type construction, the live room would (for budget reasons) only get an inner ceiling leaf, no new inner walls. Can it be done without calling the A-team? 8)
Well, for one thing if all you have in the basement so far is concrete block walls, then a common way (judging from the build of my house) of finishing the basement is to build a stud wall about 4" in from the block, anyway. This sounds to me like a good thing to leave permanently, so you can sell your house with a 'finished' basement. Skewed walls may not appeal to most buyers, if you're planning that... but drywall in the basement in my area is a selling point. My basement walls were paneling when I moved in.
check out www.pac-intl.com, kineticsnoise.com, and www.masonindustries.com for ideas on how to build room-within-a-room using proper isolation mounts - floors, walls, ceiling which will ensure proper structural support and isolation values.
Gullfo: did I miss anything or do these companies make buildingparts which either rest on the outer floor for floating inner floors (which is not the goal), or need to be screwed into an existing outer structure (which we arn't allowed to do)? Jam: They're not really concerned bout wether or not the house will increase/decrease in value. The father just wants to cut costs. He believes that, seeing as there are no neighbours and the location is underground, the only concern would be the ceiling. "Why isolate the walls if our concern is the leakage through the ceiling, towards the living room above?" I think I missed my shot at coming across from the first attempt on this one. :D 1) I'm helping out a friend with his basement rehearsal room / demo studio build. 2) His dad is keen on the idea, but says he won't allow ANY holes drilled in the existing concrete structure. Not the floor, not the walls, not the ceiling. 3) I'm familiar with the commonly used building techniques here on "Recording Studio Design Forum". As I will explain below, this here request (from the father) appears to be a little trickier. 4) No floating floors, just your usual drywalls and ceilings. Only thing is, We can't screw em into anything. Due to budget considerations, I've been asked not to construct any new walls in the big rehearsal room, only a ceiling. But, not being able to screw the ceiling tight, and not being allowed to build additional sheetrock walls to support the ceiling due to budget, how do I keep the ceiling from falling down? Question 1: can it be done? Question 2: has anyone ever done it? Question 3: how do I determine if it's really only the ceiling which needs additional isolation? Could be other sources of evil flanking their way into the living room, couldn't it?
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i think at this point you need magic and levitation, as most times i've designed and built things you need something to support the new ceiling such as walls or overhead structure to fly the new ceiling off. :shock: