acoustic instrument studio

johnsonpt1 · Post by **johnsonpt1** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 11:40 pm

hello,
i am on the low end of the learning curve as far
as studio design, acoustics, layout, etc, etc.
so bear with me. trying to absorb all the required
information for designing and constructing a small
home studio seems imposible at times.
anyway, i will be recording acoustic instruments
only....guitar, mandolin, banjo, violin, bass, etc.
are there any special considerations i should be
aware of for this type of studio. in other words, are
there things i should do differently in the overall
design and layout since i won't be recording instruments
like drums or electric guitar, and so on.
thanks,
tj

Ethan Winer · Post by **Ethan Winer** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 2:41 am

TJ,

> i will be recording acoustic instruments only....guitar, mandolin, banjo, violin, bass, etc. are there any special considerations <

Do not carpet the floor! Use any type of reflective material like hardwood, linoleum, or painted or stained cement. Then you'll need absorption on the walls and ceilings to keep the room from being too live and reverberant.

--Ethan

johnsonpt1 · Post by **johnsonpt1** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:04 am

thanks for the reply ethan.
what would the benefit be of the hard surfaced(reflective) floor?
as i said previously, i'm still educating myself on the subject of acoustics. so please forgive me for asking these remedial type questions.

and i'll add another question to the mix while i'm at it.
has/does anyone record in their control room. not direct in for bass and the like, but with a mic. if the typical noise in a control room(computer/recorder/etc) were removed, would there be a problem recording in the control room. i'd like to be able to do this for a number of reasons.

Post by **John Sayers** » Thu Sep 18, 2003 7:17 am

would there be a problem recording in the control room.

no problem tj. As Ethan said you just need the right balance between reflective and absoption surfaces. For acoustic instruments make sure the low end of the room is undercontrol and the highs are still in the room (i.e. not sucked out with heavy high end absorption.

By the instrument line up and your location it sounds like bluegrass to me ?? I love bluegrass

:)

cheers
john

johnsonpt1 · Post by **johnsonpt1** » Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:56 pm

thanks for the info.
my plan is to build a small external studio on my property.
i'm sure it'll be a couple of years before i start on the construction.
it'll probably take me that long to work out all the details.

do any of you guys know of a USER FRIENDLY program to
draw floor plans? i've tried a couple and they are NOT user friendly.
i think you'd need a course in cad to use these.

and yes, it's bluegrass. a friend introduced me to tony rice's
music a couple years ago and that opened up the world of
acoustic music and bluegrass for me. up until then i'd been a rock
fan. still am. just not exclusively.

Post by **John Sayers** » Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:30 pm

I use a drawing program called smartdraw - http://www.smartdraw.com

you can download a trial version from their site.

Bluegrass - yeah - how about the dixie chicks - "white trash wedding"

:)

cheers
john

Ethan Winer · Post by **Ethan Winer** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 2:22 am

Johnson,

> what would the benefit be of the hard surfaced(reflective) floor? <

Many benefits. See the sidebar "Hard floor, soft ceiling" in my Acoustics FAQ, second in the list on my Articles page:

www.ethanwiner.com/articles.html

--Ethan

Post by **John Sayers** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:58 am

Johnson - just to add to what Ethan is saying if you are sitting on a chair with your acoustic guitar with a mike say 1 ft away the first reflection will be off the floor - way before any of the room reflections come in.

cheers
John

pdlstl · Post by **pdlstl** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:20 am

Hi,

I'm doing what you're talking about already. I have a small all-acoustic studio here in Fort Worth.

I'm recording in a 14'X16'X9' room. It has a mexican terra cotta tile floor.

Since I track only (no full-band stuff), I'm in the room with the performers.

Here's an example of what I'm doing:

http://www.earlclark.com/mp3/light.mp3

http://www.earlclark.com/mp3/gr004.mp3

John, you may enjoy these too!

Earl

Post by **John Sayers** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 3:47 pm

yeah - nice bluegrass - you got me

:)
cheers
john

johnsonpt1 · Post by **johnsonpt1** » Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:46 pm

thanks for the smartdraw tip john. i'll download it and give it a try.
and thanks for the link to your site ethan. wow. lots of info there. i'm still amazed and grateful at how generous you guys are with your information.
sounds good earl. are you recording onto tape or digital?

pdlstl · Post by **pdlstl** » Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:47 am

Digital...PC.

Earl

johnsonpt1 · Post by **johnsonpt1** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:43 am

ok guys...get out your red markers and critique the layout i've attached.
this is my first drawing, so please feel free to make any suggestions
for needed changes. i'll be starting from scratch, so i'm not locked in
to anything yet.
i'm not even sure i can do all the layout suggests. specifically the isolation of the computer in another room. i don't know if cables that long for the mouse,monitor, and keyboard would pose a problem or not. i'm gonna have to research that.
and i included a small isolation booth just to have as another option. even though i probably won't need one, i'd hate to need one later and wish i'd built one.
tj

barefoot · Post by **barefoot** » Wed Sep 24, 2003 6:26 am

TJ,

Looks good - though you might need more volume dedicated to bass trapping.

You also might consider building some kind of gear rack in the computer room that can open to the control room for easy access to your computer, recorder, and such. The door could be made of heavy double paned plexigals, giving you both visibility and sound isolation.

CRT computer monitors often produce high frequency noise from their high voltage transformers. You might consider a flat panel display. Another great little extra for this type of setup is a wireless keyboard and mouse.

Thomas

johnsonpt1 · Post by **johnsonpt1** » Thu Sep 25, 2003 5:11 am

i figured i'd need more bass absorption. i was hoping someone might have suggestions as to the best location and type.
i intend to use a flat panel monitor, but i hadn't
thought about the remote mouse and keyboard. thanks.
tj

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