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outer walls

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:43 pm
by mikeklooster
ive been reading this forum and i have one looming question. I am about to start construction on a 24' by 25' seperate garage to make a studio. My question is on outer walls. Everything in discussion seems to be inner. I am stripping down to the studs but the outer side has plywood and stucco. Not sure if I can build a double wall bacause of money and space. After the studs what is the most logical wall layering? From what i gather it is insulation between(703), rc-1 attached to the studs, 1/2" drywall 2 layers, and something about wrapping the studs. Is that correct?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:37 pm
by knightfly
Mike, that would partly depend on how loud you intend to get, how irritated your neighbors can get, and whether you want to use this space at 3 am to cut drum tracks with a death metal band - can you fill us in a bit more on your intent so we can tell you more accurate lies? :wink:

Keep in mind that isolation is no free lunch - if you MUST have good iso in order to use the place, then giving up another 5-6" all around is a GOOD trade... Steve

outer walls

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:24 am
by mikeklooster
thanx ive checked budget and im going double wall. but i dont know the best gap of frames. i feel i can afford up to 6" but if thinner is good id love the space back

mike

Re: outer walls

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:19 am
by sharward
mikeklooster wrote:i feel i can afford up to 6" but if thinner is good id love the space back...
I'm with you, Mike -- for my project, I'm planning to space my wall frames 3" apart, which would yield an 8 3/4" to 10" gap between leaves... But if I can get away with 1" or 2", I'd prefer that -- or, if giving up an additional couple of inches would make a big difference, I'd be willing.
Custom Audio Designs wrote:Increasing the cavity space . . . greatly improves the transmission loss at the lowest frequencies. (source)
The low end is critical. I think you and I both would like to know how many inches yield how much benefit.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:19 pm
by knightfly
Up to at least 12" air gap, you'll see fairly constant improvement with greater depth - beyond that, payback is iffier.

However, that being said I'm considering 8" concrete outer walls, 36" air gap :shock: and double gypsum framed walls for my outer containment, depending on which of two plans I follow to Nirvana - main reason is that this would lower m-a-m resonance to around 8 hZ, so anything audible would all be on the same side of the resonance curve and not be "amplified" -

Added benefit - I could literally walk inside my walls and "tune" as necessar, AFTER the fact - Added problem - very painful to give up that much space, this will ONLY happen if I decide to put the new studio inside a 48 x 108 shop building that's not yet built.

Reality check - if you're doing loud drums next to cranky neighbors with good hearing, I'd go up to 12" with 3 layers, as Keith is planning. If you're into dulcimer and flute, go find a quiet hilltop and a laptop/recording sofware, and save your money :wink: