Warsaw, 3 rooms facility, curvy room
Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 9:38 pm
Hey, New to the forum, much appreciate all of the knowledge here, already learn a lot.
After months of searching we found great facility for our needs, close to the metro and train station, very close to the city center. Couple of days ago we sign up an agreement with the owner of this 150m^2 basement.
The place have 90m^2 room with curved walls, 2,9m in height, 30m^2 room with 3 windows and 12m^2 small room.
Here's raw and recreated building layout based on real measurements: There's .skp file for empty room:
https://mega.nz/file/680hhSZL#zJZBuwdic ... 8PYiOe0SMI
Some photos: We did some first shot measurements using guide but only up to 5k and using some behringer PA speaker and nady cm-100
MDAT:
https://mega.nz/file/m0cE2bwK#zjaNmK8-g ... 6wKT7MU0XU
PLACING: Waterfall: Already did more measurements with different placement but accidentally deleted them, IMO they differ a lot, there's list of resonances from different measurements (listed before delete)
38 56 60 92 118 140
47,5 59 68 85 130 190
38 55,5 80 91 140!!!! 300
38 56 70 118 140
38 55,5 60 70 121 139 213
Most awful was 140hz, I played it at full volume and walked up the building, neighbours, I could hear it even on 5th floor but for them it was not onerous.
We set our needs to have a possibility of having 3 simultaneous sessions in a place. Also we'll be charging more for the Studio 1 which will be the biggest one and have best monitors so the whole studio is designed around that. Most of the time we'll be recording vocals and our client base is mostly that type of artists but I'll setup whole studio to have possibility of record a band.
We really want to have natural light inside so there's at least one window in every room. Behind these 3 windows there's a awful chamber that I need to treat somehow, covered by glass which you can see up from the street. On the bottom (featured in photos above) there's a door to the outside "smoking room" (I bet it can end up like this, sometimes we got session for 10 ppl.) so there was a need for some type of corridor.
I came up with design like this (let's focus only on this central room - studio 1): There's .skp file for my project:
https://mega.nz/file/jxFkFLLL#A7SbFQsY4 ... FT1pLuMys8
There's also first reflection predict using amray: Right now the studio 1 have 28,5m^2, vocal booth 11,15 m^2
Whole budget for construction/acoustics is around 25000 usd
Main questions about this project for you guys are:
is there different design layout we didn't thought of?
And idea how to treat this 140 biiig bump? is it from floor-celling mode or from some walls? If I calculated correctly 1/4 wv of this f is around 60cm.
Is there any possibility to calculate room modes in curvature room? (already tried comsol acoustics simulation but without success)
Can we achieve good separation between 2 rooms 40cm-52cm apart themselves?
After months of searching we found great facility for our needs, close to the metro and train station, very close to the city center. Couple of days ago we sign up an agreement with the owner of this 150m^2 basement.
The place have 90m^2 room with curved walls, 2,9m in height, 30m^2 room with 3 windows and 12m^2 small room.
Here's raw and recreated building layout based on real measurements: There's .skp file for empty room:
https://mega.nz/file/680hhSZL#zJZBuwdic ... 8PYiOe0SMI
Some photos: We did some first shot measurements using guide but only up to 5k and using some behringer PA speaker and nady cm-100
MDAT:
https://mega.nz/file/m0cE2bwK#zjaNmK8-g ... 6wKT7MU0XU
PLACING: Waterfall: Already did more measurements with different placement but accidentally deleted them, IMO they differ a lot, there's list of resonances from different measurements (listed before delete)
38 56 60 92 118 140
47,5 59 68 85 130 190
38 55,5 80 91 140!!!! 300
38 56 70 118 140
38 55,5 60 70 121 139 213
Most awful was 140hz, I played it at full volume and walked up the building, neighbours, I could hear it even on 5th floor but for them it was not onerous.
We set our needs to have a possibility of having 3 simultaneous sessions in a place. Also we'll be charging more for the Studio 1 which will be the biggest one and have best monitors so the whole studio is designed around that. Most of the time we'll be recording vocals and our client base is mostly that type of artists but I'll setup whole studio to have possibility of record a band.
We really want to have natural light inside so there's at least one window in every room. Behind these 3 windows there's a awful chamber that I need to treat somehow, covered by glass which you can see up from the street. On the bottom (featured in photos above) there's a door to the outside "smoking room" (I bet it can end up like this, sometimes we got session for 10 ppl.) so there was a need for some type of corridor.
I came up with design like this (let's focus only on this central room - studio 1): There's .skp file for my project:
https://mega.nz/file/jxFkFLLL#A7SbFQsY4 ... FT1pLuMys8
There's also first reflection predict using amray: Right now the studio 1 have 28,5m^2, vocal booth 11,15 m^2
Whole budget for construction/acoustics is around 25000 usd
Main questions about this project for you guys are:
is there different design layout we didn't thought of?
And idea how to treat this 140 biiig bump? is it from floor-celling mode or from some walls? If I calculated correctly 1/4 wv of this f is around 60cm.
Is there any possibility to calculate room modes in curvature room? (already tried comsol acoustics simulation but without success)
Can we achieve good separation between 2 rooms 40cm-52cm apart themselves?