Control Room Design and Orientation Help
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:45 pm
Hi All! Long time member, first time poster
After spending over one year building my last studio which I enjoyed over a 5 year period (thanks to the help of this forum and John Sayers recording manual), I decided to move house and do it all again!
I'm looking to build a control and live room in an existing shed in my new back yard. I have a good grasp on construction and isolation requirements thanks to my last build, however I'm having trouble deciding on the layout of the control room and would appreciate some help.
Firstly, a bit about my location and plans:
- My shed is 8m x 5.5m with colorbond outer walls with double skillion colourbond roof built on a concrete slab.
- My plan is to build two rooms within the shed.
- I live on a sloping block approx 1/4 of an acre and the closest neighbors house would be 15 meters away, my house being
approx 10 meters from the proposed studio.
- I plan to build the walls using Johns 'Inside Out' wall design using 90x45 timber at 600 centers with 2 layers of 16mm
fyrchek plasterboard, or possibly one layer of 16mm and one layer of 10mm. As distance from my neighbors is decent and
my site is 'cut out' into the land I feel this will be sufficient isolation. We can be loud when jamming, however this is
generally only once a week unless tracking an album.
- The walls will be installed directly on the slab. I have seen some people add neoprene to the bottom plate, is this
necessary? I will either lay floating floor boards on top of the slab but I'm also considering a polished concrete floor which
can look amazing too! Cost will be a factor here.
- Ceiling wise, not sure whether or not to do an inside out design or just normal. I have plenty of height room thanks to the
skillion roof design so...yep undecided!
- I would like to use Johns sliding door design between the live and control rooms. There is a post just off center of the shed
(long ways) which I plan to build around with a double inside out wall and would like glass sliding doors on each side of the
post separating the control and live rooms.
- The shed has two existing sliding door entrances, one which will be live room entry and the other control room entry. I
would like to keep these as from the outside the look great and being elevated on the sloping block, it offers fantastic views
of the area. I will add another sliding door internally to each existing door for isolation.
Please see attached a plan view of the shed with existing post/C channel positions. Obviously I'm going to build my studio walls inside the outer posts. What I'm stuck with is the the orientation of the control room. As I'm going to build the center post hidden inside a wall, I'm not sure whether to face the control room North or South.
Option 1. Facing control room North
If the desk was at the North end of the control room I would have the entrance sliding door directly behind me which I believe would cause reflection issues. I would sit a couch in in front of the sliding door (away from it far enough to allow access inside the studio). To the right of the desk I would angle the glass sliding door and build speaker soffits at the front and treat with resonators and bass traps around the room accordingly. If facing the control room this way, would hanging curtain in front of the sliding door act well enough to stop reflections when mixing?
Option 2. Facing control room South
The other consideration is having the desk in front of the sliding door - again obviously with enough room for access again. Again I would face the sliding door adjacent to the desk on the required angle. This however would mean I have no room for speaker soffits in the front. One solution would be locating the speaker soffits above the sliding door, which I've seen in one of Johns studio designs (Guerrilla Music in Beirut - Lebanon, see attached photo). The other advantage this offers is taking in the views from outside the door which especially at night is amazing. Facing this way would also allow the couch against the wall to the North of the control room.
Please excuse the attached extremely crude sketch of the above options. My sketch up skills are a couple of days old and I need some more practice...desperately!
NOTE: In both options the approx dimensions of the Control Room will be approx 5.3m long x 3.5m wide
Regardless of the layout, as mentioned above I'm not sure what to do with the ceiling in both the control and live rooms. My initial thought was to follow the angle of the skillion roof which I think would look great and reduce floor to ceiling reflections. I've seen 'angle to flat to angle' ceiling designs in other studios is this a better method?
I know there are more questions I wanted to ask but brain fatigue has set in.
Hopefully I've made some sense! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If you require any further information please don't hesitate to ask.
Sincerely
Toby Price.
After spending over one year building my last studio which I enjoyed over a 5 year period (thanks to the help of this forum and John Sayers recording manual), I decided to move house and do it all again!
I'm looking to build a control and live room in an existing shed in my new back yard. I have a good grasp on construction and isolation requirements thanks to my last build, however I'm having trouble deciding on the layout of the control room and would appreciate some help.
Firstly, a bit about my location and plans:
- My shed is 8m x 5.5m with colorbond outer walls with double skillion colourbond roof built on a concrete slab.
- My plan is to build two rooms within the shed.
- I live on a sloping block approx 1/4 of an acre and the closest neighbors house would be 15 meters away, my house being
approx 10 meters from the proposed studio.
- I plan to build the walls using Johns 'Inside Out' wall design using 90x45 timber at 600 centers with 2 layers of 16mm
fyrchek plasterboard, or possibly one layer of 16mm and one layer of 10mm. As distance from my neighbors is decent and
my site is 'cut out' into the land I feel this will be sufficient isolation. We can be loud when jamming, however this is
generally only once a week unless tracking an album.
- The walls will be installed directly on the slab. I have seen some people add neoprene to the bottom plate, is this
necessary? I will either lay floating floor boards on top of the slab but I'm also considering a polished concrete floor which
can look amazing too! Cost will be a factor here.
- Ceiling wise, not sure whether or not to do an inside out design or just normal. I have plenty of height room thanks to the
skillion roof design so...yep undecided!
- I would like to use Johns sliding door design between the live and control rooms. There is a post just off center of the shed
(long ways) which I plan to build around with a double inside out wall and would like glass sliding doors on each side of the
post separating the control and live rooms.
- The shed has two existing sliding door entrances, one which will be live room entry and the other control room entry. I
would like to keep these as from the outside the look great and being elevated on the sloping block, it offers fantastic views
of the area. I will add another sliding door internally to each existing door for isolation.
Please see attached a plan view of the shed with existing post/C channel positions. Obviously I'm going to build my studio walls inside the outer posts. What I'm stuck with is the the orientation of the control room. As I'm going to build the center post hidden inside a wall, I'm not sure whether to face the control room North or South.
Option 1. Facing control room North
If the desk was at the North end of the control room I would have the entrance sliding door directly behind me which I believe would cause reflection issues. I would sit a couch in in front of the sliding door (away from it far enough to allow access inside the studio). To the right of the desk I would angle the glass sliding door and build speaker soffits at the front and treat with resonators and bass traps around the room accordingly. If facing the control room this way, would hanging curtain in front of the sliding door act well enough to stop reflections when mixing?
Option 2. Facing control room South
The other consideration is having the desk in front of the sliding door - again obviously with enough room for access again. Again I would face the sliding door adjacent to the desk on the required angle. This however would mean I have no room for speaker soffits in the front. One solution would be locating the speaker soffits above the sliding door, which I've seen in one of Johns studio designs (Guerrilla Music in Beirut - Lebanon, see attached photo). The other advantage this offers is taking in the views from outside the door which especially at night is amazing. Facing this way would also allow the couch against the wall to the North of the control room.
Please excuse the attached extremely crude sketch of the above options. My sketch up skills are a couple of days old and I need some more practice...desperately!
NOTE: In both options the approx dimensions of the Control Room will be approx 5.3m long x 3.5m wide
Regardless of the layout, as mentioned above I'm not sure what to do with the ceiling in both the control and live rooms. My initial thought was to follow the angle of the skillion roof which I think would look great and reduce floor to ceiling reflections. I've seen 'angle to flat to angle' ceiling designs in other studios is this a better method?
I know there are more questions I wanted to ask but brain fatigue has set in.
Hopefully I've made some sense! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If you require any further information please don't hesitate to ask.
Sincerely
Toby Price.