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Hi Hope you guys can help me. I'm an amateur when it comes to Studio design, but I want to learn more.

I'm moving into a new space. An old three church. The live room is about 100 square meeters and the ceiling height is about 4.5 meeters. All wood. Wooden floor too, but it has a carped. What do you think about carpet floor? I've heard people saying too much carpet makes your overhead (on drums) sound dull and not exiting. So I was thinking about building a riser for the drums with parquet or tiles. Is that a good idea?

The Church itself isnt very reverby. The room seems to have a nice shape.
I have some absorption panels + gobos. My first goal is to find out a little bit more about the sound in the room, and how much I need to controll it. I have 7-8 gobos.
i want that live big sound without being to reverby.

What's your first approatch to testing. Test some drums ?

And what room do you guys think is suitable for control room?
The ceiling height is not that good in the other rooms.
I was thinking about maybe having an open solution in the live room if the ratio on the other rooms is bad.

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Hi there " bokaasen", and Welcome!

The live room is about 100 square meeters and the ceiling height is about 4.5 meeters.

That's a really nice sized space! You are a lucky guy to have that.

What do you think about carpet floor?

Bad idea! Take a look at photos of several high-end studios, and see how many you can find that have carpet on the floor of the live room....

(There's a reason for that).

I've heard people saying too much carpet makes your overhead (on drums) sound dull and not exiting.

It makes the entire room sound dull, flat, boomy, muddy, and all those other not-so-nice words. Carpet absorbs highs very well, mids randomly, and lows not at all. That's terrible for a live room.

And what room do you guys think is suitable for control room?

What type of control room? Specifications such as ITU BS.1116-2 call for a minimum floor area of 20m2 for a 2.0 or 2.1 control room, or 30m2 for a multi-channel (5.1, 7.1, etc.) control room. All of the other specs for control rooms are in there too. You should take a look at that, to understand what the design and acoustics should be like for a control room.

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- Stuart -

That's a really nice sized space! You are a lucky guy to have that.

Thanks. Hope it will be great

Bad idea! Take a look at photos of several high-end studios, and see how many you can find that have carpet on the floor of the live room....

(There's a reason for that).

It makes the entire room sound dull, flat, boomy, muddy, and all those other not-so-nice words. Carpet absorbs highs very well, mids randomly, and lows not at all. That's terrible for a live room.

The carpet is going away. Parquet is that okay? I will probably lay it right on the carpet.

What type of control room? Specifications such as ITU BS.1116-2 call for a minimum floor area of 20m2 for a 2.0 or 2.1 control room, or 30m2 for a multi-channel (5.1, 7.1, etc.) control room. All of the other specs for control rooms are in there too. You should take a look at that, to understand what the design and acoustics should be like for a control room.

I'm going to have a normal controll room 2.0 or 2.1 (stereo Speakers, no surround). If you see my pictures, you can see the mesurements for the other rooms. what room do you guys think is suitable for control room? I need some education about designing a control room. Is there any good stuff out there?

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Thanks for the help.

The carpet is going away. Parquet is that okay? I will probably lay it right on the carpet.

It's not a good idea to lay another type of flooring over carpet. It would be much better to first remove the carpet, then lay the new flooring. Parquet is fine, or laminate flooring, or ceramic flooring, or anything that is hard, solid, and reflective.

I'm going to have a normal controll room 2.0 or 2.1 (stereo Speakers, no surround)

Great! Then an area of 20 m2 would be fine. You could probably go down to as little as 15 m2 if space is tight.

I need some education about designing a control room. Is there any good stuff out there?

I'd suggest two books: "Master Handbook of Acoustics" by F. Alton Everest (that's sort of the Bible for acoustics), and "Home Recording Studio: Build it Like the Pros", by Rod Gervais- Also, just look around the forum! Follow some of the threads by forum members on studios tha have been designed and completely built by them, with our help, and you'll see what the process of studio design looks like, as well as some of the common errors.

I'm not shure what I do wrong. Please tell what i do wrong

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Thanks for the help

- Stuart -

Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it

Great! Then an area of 20 m2 would be fine. You could probably go down to as little as 15 m2 if space is tight.

The sizes of the two smaller rooms I have is

Gallery:
29.44m²= 316 feet
4,6 M x 6,4 M
Ceiling height: around 2,1 M

Under Gallery:
34.65m²= 372 feet
7,7 M x 4,5 M
Ceiling height: around 2,3 M

The bad thing here is the ceiling height. But I got to deal with it.
On the gallery it's a thin plaster wall on the roof.
rear roof, is actually 3 meters height. But I'm not going to open up here.

I'd suggest two books: "Master Handbook of Acoustics" by F. Alton Everest (that's sort of the Bible for acoustics), and "Home Recording Studio: Build it Like the Pros", by Rod Gervais- Also, just look around the forum! Follow some of the threads by forum members on studios tha have been designed and completely built by them, with our help, and you'll see what the process of studio design looks like, as well as some of the common errors.

Thanks, I will check these books out. As well as the forum threads. I will also try to post from my build.

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10) Re-size all photos, drawings, pictures, graphs, and other images as necessary to keep the size BETWEEN 700 and 750 pixels wide - otherwise it's either too small to see the details, or it forces people to scroll sideways to read every line of text.

11) Please post ALL pictures directly to this forum instead of linking to them; There are far too many cases here on the forum, in older threads, of pictures that are no longer visible because the off-site link moved, closed down, went out of business, or disappeared for unknown reasons. When new members want to read and learn from those old threads, they can't follow things because the pictures are no longer there. Posting your pictures HERE ensures that others get the help YOU got; thanks...

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I think I have fixed this now. I totally understand the problem it causes when people upload from another places.

Thanks for the help again Great forum by the way