I will try to post as regularly as i can ... Im getting good progress now and will start on the door and window installation after the drum riser is finishedRain wrote:Awesome, have you made some progress lately? I'd love to see some more pics.
New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
-
- Posts: 93
- Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:31 pm
- Location: Norway
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
-
- Posts: 1
- Joined: Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:09 am
- Location: Santiago, Chile
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
How to make the room riser? 1 layer of OC 703 with three ply of MDF?studioNorWay wrote:I will try to post as regularly as i can ... Im getting good progress now and will start on the door and window installation after the drum riser is finishedRain wrote:Awesome, have you made some progress lately? I'd love to see some more pics.
-
- Posts: 93
- Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:31 pm
- Location: Norway
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
I am not an expert on drum riser so the description below is just what I went for. It will have to be up to the experts to explain the best option.cgomez_blacksun wrote:How to make the room riser? 1 layer of OC 703 with three ply of MDF?studioNorWay wrote:I will try to post as regularly as i can ... Im getting good progress now and will start on the door and window installation after the drum riser is finishedRain wrote:Awesome, have you made some progress lately? I'd love to see some more pics.
My drum riser was made to prevent for the impact noise made for my guitar amplifiers. My drum riser is resting on my original concrete flooring.
I made a frame resting freely with space around the walls for calc. I did not use OC703 but Rockwool. Also I finished it of with two layers of 22 mm chipboards (screwed-glued). I will finish of the floor with Linoleum.
-
- Site Admin
- Posts: 11938
- Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:17 am
- Location: Santiago, Chile
- Contact:
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
Glenn posted these images of his design for a drum riser, several years ago. I haven't come across a better design yet!
It's self explanatory.
And this photo:
- Stuart -
It's self explanatory.
And this photo:
- Stuart -
-
- Posts: 93
- Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:31 pm
- Location: Norway
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
I see now that I have misunderstood the whole concept of Glens drum riser design. Yes, It's self explanatory. I will have to redo mine as you have mention above. Thanks Stuart for clarifying this for us.Soundman2020 wrote:Glenn posted these images of his design for a drum riser, several years ago. I haven't come across a better design yet!
- Stuart -
-
- Site Admin
- Posts: 11938
- Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:17 am
- Location: Santiago, Chile
- Contact:
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
The important thing with Glenn's design is that the ONLY part that touches the floor, is the insulation. The entire platform rests only on insulation. The wood skirt around the edges does not touch the floor: it's only there for cosmetic reasons: to hide the edges of the wood and insulation. But there's a half inch gap between the bottom edge of that skirt, and the floor.
- Stuart -
- Stuart -
-
- Posts: 93
- Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:31 pm
- Location: Norway
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
Thanks Stuart for clarifying. Some questions though. I don’t know how to get 703 in Norway. Will 22mm 0.787 inch Rockwool boards work?Soundman2020 wrote:The important thing with Glenn's design is that the ONLY part that touches the floor, is the insulation. The entire platform rests only on insulation. The wood skirt around the edges does not touch the floor: it's only there for cosmetic reasons: to hide the edges of the wood and insulation. But there's a half inch gap between the bottom edge of that skirt, and the floor.
- Stuart -
-
- Posts: 93
- Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:31 pm
- Location: Norway
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
It seems that the rockwool Rw3 (60kg/m3) is somewhat simulare to oc 703. So 50 mm (2’’) on the floor will work or am I totaly waaaaaaay of here.studioNorWay wrote:Thanks Stuart for clarifying. Some questions though. I don’t know how to get 703 in Norway. Will 22mm 0.787 inch Rockwool boards work?Soundman2020 wrote:The important thing with Glenn's design is that the ONLY part that touches the floor, is the insulation. The entire platform rests only on insulation. The wood skirt around the edges does not touch the floor: it's only there for cosmetic reasons: to hide the edges of the wood and insulation. But there's a half inch gap between the bottom edge of that skirt, and the floor.
- Stuart -
-
- Site Admin
- Posts: 11938
- Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:17 am
- Location: Santiago, Chile
- Contact:
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
I have never tried that myself, but I reckon it should work just fine.
- Stuart -
- Stuart -
-
- Posts: 93
- Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:31 pm
- Location: Norway
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
Thanks Stuart. I have ordered all flooring materials. Will arrive in a few weeks or so. Meanwhile Im installing the double doors. Doors are fitted with a roller locking mechanism so I dont need the holes for the door handels. The door will close on push and open if pulled. Finished the frame with foam rod into the cracks (both sides of the door) and then caulk. The inside between the frames will be fitted with cloth covered rockwoll. Still wating for my ordered cloth so this will have to come later. I havent desided what to do on the bottom inside the frame as walking on the cloth will destroy it. Any ideas will be appreciated.
-
- Moderator
- Posts: 1501
- Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:03 pm
- Location: St. Albert, Alberta, Canada
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
Can you link us to the manufacturer's specs for those hinges? I don't like the idea that you only have 3 hinges per door. For any heavy doors, manufacturers typically recommend at least 4 hinges, even when they're heavy duty models.Doors are fitted with a roller locking mechanism so I dont need the holes for the door handels. The door will close on push and open if pulled.
This is great, but personally I dislike the fact that the handles are on opposite sides of your doors. It will make entering or exiting the room more of a task. It's already annoying having to walk through two doors.I dont need the holes for the door handels.
You could just add a strip of wood across the gap, but leave a very small gap. You could fill that gap with backer rod and sealant to prevent debris from going down into the small crack while maintaining the decoupling. Here's a few pictures showing what I mean courtesy of Stuart: GregI havent desided what to do on the bottom inside the frame as walking on the cloth will destroy it. Any ideas will be appreciated.
It appears that you've made the mistake most people do. You started building without consulting this forum.
-
- Posts: 93
- Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:31 pm
- Location: Norway
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
Hi Gregwor. Thanks allot for taking the time to give feedback. I really appresiate it.
Do you think I should add one more hinge on each door? Each door is not that big; 200 cm (78 inch) height, 80 cm (31 inch) width. The weight of the door is about 80 kg.
I’ve attached a picture of the manufacture specification. Each hinge can handle a load of 120 kg.Gregwor wrote:Doors are fitted with a roller locking mechanism so I dont need the holes for the door handels. The door will close on push and open if pulled.
Can you link us to the manufacturer's specs for those hinges? I don't like the idea that you only have 3 hinges per door. For any heavy doors, manufacturers typically recommend at least 4 hinges, even when they're heavy duty models.
Do you think I should add one more hinge on each door? Each door is not that big; 200 cm (78 inch) height, 80 cm (31 inch) width. The weight of the door is about 80 kg.
I quite agree with you on this point. This was a decision a made due to the fact that the room is so small. From the outside I needed to get the door fully open to get equipment inside the room. At the same time the other door needed to open the other way so it didn’t come in the way of my equipment. See attached photo.Gregwor wrote: This is great, but personally I dislike the fact that the handles are on opposite sides of your doors. It will make entering or exiting the room more of a task. It's already annoying having to walk through two doors.
Thanks allot. I will do as specifiedGregwor wrote: You could just add a strip of wood across the gap, but leave a very small gap. You could fill that gap with backer rod and sealant to prevent debris from going down into the small crack while maintaining the decoupling. Here's a few pictures showing what I mean courtesy of Stuart:
-
- Moderator
- Posts: 1501
- Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:03 pm
- Location: St. Albert, Alberta, Canada
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
Typically, on overall hinge specs like that, they are assuming you're using 3 hinges. So, I'd guess that 3 of your hinges TOGETHER will handle a door weighing 120 kg.I’ve attached a picture of the manufacture specification. Each hinge can handle a load of 120 kg.
Do you think I should add one more hinge on each door? Each door is not that big; 200 cm (78 inch) height, 80 cm (31 inch) width. The weight of the door is about 80 kg.
As a final note on this topic, I will point out the fact that when hinges wear out, the door will sag. Sag is normal and accepted for typical entry doors. In a studio where the seals must be perfectly seated, sag is not acceptable. For that reason alone, I would over compensate and add a 4th hinge.
I totally understand. I just hope it doesn't bother you too much in the future.I quite agree with you on this point. This was a decision a made due to the fact that the room is so small. From the outside I needed to get the door fully open to get equipment inside the room. At the same time the other door needed to open the other way so it didn’t come in the way of my equipment. See attached photo.
Greg
It appears that you've made the mistake most people do. You started building without consulting this forum.
-
- Posts: 93
- Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:31 pm
- Location: Norway
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
Thanks for clarifying Greg. I have ordered two new hinges.Gregwor wrote:Typically, on overall hinge specs like that, they are assuming you're using 3 hinges. So, I'd guess that 3 of your hinges TOGETHER will handle a door weighing 120 kg.I’ve attached a picture of the manufacture specification. Each hinge can handle a load of 120 kg.
Do you think I should add one more hinge on each door? Each door is not that big; 200 cm (78 inch) height, 80 cm (31 inch) width. The weight of the door is about 80 kg.
As a final note on this topic, I will point out the fact that when hinges wear out, the door will sag. Sag is normal and accepted for typical entry doors. In a studio where the seals must be perfectly seated, sag is not acceptable. For that reason alone, I would over compensate and add a 4th hinge.
I totally understand. I just hope it doesn't bother you too much in the future.I quite agree with you on this point. This was a decision a made due to the fact that the room is so small. From the outside I needed to get the door fully open to get equipment inside the room. At the same time the other door needed to open the other way so it didn’t come in the way of my equipment. See attached photo.
Greg
-
- Posts: 93
- Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:31 pm
- Location: Norway
Re: New (Small Home Studio) Build, Norway
This weeks update. Started redoing the floor as specified (insulation - 2 layers of MDF - Finishing off with plywood an calc around the edges)