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Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 1:40 pm
by jwl
Hi Kaj,

Interesting idea. I've never personally had much luck with the hanger method. I've definitely never tried using MiniTraps as bass hangers. My suspicion is that it wouldn't work. The normal bass hanger design uses a rigid surface, with absorbent around each side. This is basically a gobo. The MiniTraps are velocity absorbers, which require sound to pass through it.

It'd be interesting to test this out, though....

Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 2:45 pm
by jbassino
John
Is it possible to use Styrofoam/Expanded Polystyrene/EPS or whatever you call it there instead of the homosote? I cant find something like that here.
Maybe Homosote is similar to OSB ?

If not. what else?

Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Mon May 25, 2009 3:33 pm
by John Sayers
I reckon the close equivalent would be heavy packing cardboard, maybe two sheets glued together as homosote is made from recycled paper.

Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 2:34 am
by jbassino
Cool
I'll get some heavy cardboard then...

Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:39 am
by micmic
Hi All,

I've placed my acoustic hangers and diffuser in the back. (See above.)
But when I'm on he mix position, I have (too)much sub low and when I listening in the back of the room there's none...zero...sub low. :?: :?:

Somebody any ideas why there is no sub low in the back of the room?
Too much trapping????

Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:14 am
by John Sayers
It appears you have a standing wave between the front and rear of the room. The diffusor won't have any effect on the low frequencies so it just bounces the lows back at you. Try removing it.

Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:07 pm
by micmic
Thanks John.
That must be it, standing waves. :oops:
I'm going to measure the room Friday.

What's the best way to treat a standing wave?

Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:23 am
by jbassino
John.
Hangers seem to not happening here.
I managed to purchase heavy cardboard but they are really small sheets. Even tho they are kinf of hard. they are nothing like homosote since they are "hollow" (a corrugated "S" sheet of carboard sandwiched by two rigid carboards, and x2). So Im guessing the density and resonance its not even close to a solid, pressed sheet of recycled paper like homosote.
Can you think of another replacement?
Or send me some homosote sheets to Chile :mrgreen:

Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:49 am
by John Sayers
micmic wrote:
What's the best way to treat a standing wave?
In your case just had heavy absorption across the rear wall instead of the diffusor

Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:05 am
by John Sayers
jb - The product is Pinnacle - Tackboard.

http://www.pinnacleboard.com/

If you can't get that just use 1/4" OSB or similar.

Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:15 pm
by jbassino
What about CORK ???

Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:11 pm
by John Sayers
yeah - good suggestion. When I started out in recording in the 60s cork was our version of 703. We'd line walls with it for acoustic treatment.

Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:40 am
by jbassino
Ouchh..
A small sheet of cork ( 0.9 x 0.5 meters), at 1 cm thick.. is about $22 usd !!!
Cork here seems to be very expensive!! And we don't have large sheets like osb or drywall.. just those smal ones

Something doesnt want me to build hangers it seems . hee

Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:47 pm
by Ro
forget about cork, really.

Re: Acoustic hangers

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:49 pm
by John Sayers
Ro wrote:forget about cork, really.
oh really Ro - why? apart from cost.