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Surround Sound Soffit mount question
Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:45 pm
by Jester
I’m designing my studio for 5.1 and I’m wondering if I need to soffit mount my rear speakers or if I can get by with them on a shelf. If I soffit mount them then I will lose a fair amount of control room space. I am not mixing in surround at the moment but I think I might be in the future. Any thoughts?
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 8:56 pm
by knightfly
If you put your surrounds on a shelf, that suggests to me that there's a wall there for the shelf to fasten to - so where would be the space difference?
If I'm not getting your meaning, sorry - here's another possible scenario - use stands for now, but lay out the CR so that soffits can be added later if you end up doing more surround. Keep in mind that all 5 speakers need to be the same distance from your head or you'll need an accurate sub-millisecond adjustable delay to compensate for phasing differences... Steve
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 6:57 am
by John Sayers
Except for the large expensisve studios I see a lot of rooms having the surrounds free standing or hung.
In one studio I've seen they actually dissappear into the ends of the producers desk when not in use.
cheers
JOhn
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 4:02 am
by barefoot
Yeah, I agree with John and Steve that free standing is the best way to go.
Rear monitors are no different than those in the front. If you mount them close to a wall, you're going to have significant comb filtering problems in the upper bass and midrange (see my Wall Bounce Calculators posted in the Acoustics forum). If you can't soffit mount, then it's better to pull the monitors away from the walls, mounting them on stands, hanging, or whatever.
Thomas
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 2:56 pm
by cadesignr
Hello Thomas, say, I did a lay out using your soffit mount idea where the speaker box is mounted in an enclosure which extends through a baffle extension panel. I did the same thing for rear surrounds, but something occured to me.
If the baffle extention panels are perpendicular to the speaker/monitoring position sight line, it would seem that these panels would make a perfect early reflection path for front monitors. Here is an unfinished layout of my room just to illustrate my question. I know now that I don't have the width in the room to do this, but I still would like to know the answer to this. That is if I made question clear enough.
Cheers
fitZ
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 8:21 pm
by Jester
Ok if I Have the rear speakers on stands how far away from the walls should I have them? Are there any control room layouts that do this that you can point me to?
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:12 pm
by Jon Best
How about flush mounting them and building a sort of 'soft soffit' around them? i.e., for a couple feet around the speaker build out from the wall with 703 or equivalent so the face of it is flush with the speaker.
Just an idea, maybe a stupid one.
barefoot wrote:Yeah, I agree with John and Steve that free standing is the best way to go.
Rear monitors are no different than those in the front. If you mount them close to a wall, you're going to have significant comb filtering problems in the upper bass and midrange (see my Wall Bounce Calculators posted in the Acoustics forum). If you can't soffit mount, then it's better to pull the monitors away from the walls, mounting them on stands, hanging, or whatever.
Thomas