Where to buy 'Acoustik Mat' in Southern Ontario??

tungstengruvsten · Post by **tungstengruvsten** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:34 am

Ideally west of Toronto but i'm not going to be too picky...need about 350sqft of it... not the Owens Corning Acoustic Mat...

Someone on this board said it was a Canadian Product, and I think it's the same one that's been mentioned as horse stall mats or something...but I can't find anything on the net...

Anyone?

AVare · Post by **AVare** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:54 am

I hope your joking expecting an answer to your question with such vague information. "Acousti mat" is made in Canada if that is what you are referring to. It is made by Maxxon Canada located in Waterloo.

What are you using for in a studio type application? I know of no use for it in normal construction.

Andre

tungstengruvsten · Post by **tungstengruvsten** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:02 am

Sorry - thought it was here that it was discussed AVare - turns out it was on AVSforum...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/ ... 89303.html
...here it's mentioned by Dennis Erskine of http://www.designcinema.com/
Further down the thread Brian Ravanas of Green Glue mentions it's superior effectiveness over the Owens Corning pink 'Acoustic Mat' .

Here is a pro install with it mentioned about half way through(2nd text block after 'rack-wiring guy picture')
http://blog.audiovideointeriors.com/tra ... l/407roof/

Here it is being used more DIY in a home theatre install:
http://matt-hamil.smugmug.com/gallery/1 ... 9644_nm2cX

Here is a thread where it is mentioned that you or someone with the same user name participated! hehe that's just kinda weird!!
http://archive.avsforum.com/avs-vb/show ... id=4649589

AVare · Post by **AVare** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:18 am

Thanks for the links. Acoustik Mat creates a triple leaf system on floor/ceiling systems. Bad for Transmission Loss (TL), good for floor impact noise reduction.

You noticed the construction of the floor in the first link and that system was designed by Dennis Erskine, a first class theatre designer. He also supports use of the material in the third link you provided. Rod Gervais' feelings about floating floors are summed up in his floating floors announcement in construction. I can not cite Rod directly, but from a source that I trust a remark is made that Rod does not care for the product, in this thread. In the linked thread Eric Desart, a world studio designer, does not support the use of the product either. It can be used effectively, but requires engineering calculations to avoid disappointment.

Yes, I am the avare in the third you provided.

Andre

tungstengruvsten · Post by **tungstengruvsten** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:48 pm

ok so I found out TSC sells these here in Canada - commonly called Stall Mats. I went and had a look at them, they are very heavy and dense rubber matts that are ribbed on one side and flat on the other. 4' x 6' in size....

I understand the triple-leaf concept, I just don't understand all the conflicting information about floating a floor - I've seen both Ethan Winer and Rod Gervais recommend floating floors using 703 or 705(correct conditions permitting of course) but they never spoke of the triple-leaf effect that would have....These heavy rubber mats seem like they would be less like creating a third leaf as they would be dampening and coupling the materials on either side of it... any clarification or further reading I can do? Just looking to demystify this and learn before I proceed...

Here's the thread I started a month ago about my attic...
http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10609