Lou's Studio - Construction Phase

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Post by VK »

Wow! What an update. All looks great!
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Post by ragman »

Great Stuff Lou!

Loving the cushions and the cable free look rules :D

I gave Peter a call at studiopeople and will be getting them on the case soon as well as starting my concrete plinth. You're spot on about their willingness to find a solution - even on a tighter budget.

Hope your learning curve doesn't get you down too much. Remember it's all the same gear underneath - just covered in annoyingly different menus and buttons... :roll:

In the meantime, enjoy the sound of a job well done!

All the best,
Dave
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Post by John Sayers »

Great final pics Lou - job well done.

cheers to all concerned
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Post by Lou »

Hey guys, check this out………………an update from me without pictures! Firstly though, a massive apology to JWL. Mate please forgive me, I’ve just realised that I forgot to thank you for your post in my last update. I hope you didn’t take that the wrong way, all the best to you mate. :oops:

Now then Mr James – There are only two wines worth drinking, both are from the Savoie region of France. The red is called ‘Gigondas’ and the white ‘Sancerre’. Only kidding! There are naturally some great Australian wines, South African, and of course the Californians don’t pull a bad punch either! James you know you’d be made totally welcome when you turn up on my doorstep; I’m an hour from Heathrow btw. :wink:

As for Cubase, well that’s really part of the update to be honest, but to answer your question, no; I’m running the Mac version. I don’t want to bring the wombat hole debate over here, but I’m afraid I’m all ‘Windows’d out’ and the idea of having to run windows on the mac platform just doesn’t seem right. To be totally fair mind you, that also means that I can’t have my preferred Wavelab 6, still, Peak Pro XT is one hell of a bundle when I can afford it! :roll:

Iain – As I mentioned on your thread, come down anytime mate I’m just off junc 12 M3. I need witnesses; sorry did I not mention that?

Ro – As always mate, many thanks, and no, I’m afraid I can’t make any more cushions! When are they gonna’ make you a Mod btw?

VK – Many thanks buddy!

Ragman – Nice one dude, glad you got on with Peter ok, and ask me all you want, or just pop down and have a nose, I need witnesses. Sorry said it again! :oops:

John – As I hope you’ll appreciate, your comment meant a hell of a lot, thank you Sir, and glad to know your feeling better. Kindest regards to you and Nancy.

Right then chaps, “Why the post if you’ve got no pics?” I hear you ask, well it occurred to me that the end of my last update was a bit of a downer, and you guys have all become mates over the last year, and it seemed only fair to let you all know that I haven’t built my own tomb after all. :wink: :wink:

Basically my head has been fried with three heavy duty training days, but I feel much happier about all the gear now. Please don’t get me wrong, I’m not all over it like a rash yet by any means, but the things that were scaring the hell out of me like how do I route auxes 9 to 12 to assignable sends 5 6 7 & 8 to feed presonus’ 1 & 2 A/B inputs now seem a breeze! Also to have 48 tracks in Cubase respond to 48 faders on the desk perfectly is …well, really rather cool actually. I’ve even got a gooseneck plumbed in for talkback and have that assigned to the same aux busses via the ‘to slate’ button which naturally, when pressed, mutes the control room as well. :D :D :D

So all in all, I think I’ve gained around 4 to 6 weeks by having the experts around. If any UK’ers need any technical help with similar gear just pm me cos I’ve got the numbers to call on my phone. :wink:

Whilst on that subject, I’ve literally just decided to mention again, (for the benefit of U.K. builders) the following people: Peter Keeling – design, analysis, and specialist material supply – 07977 043763, and of course Mr ‘Uber cool’ himself- Jeff Pank – studio builder, crew management, ordering and planning – 07767 342234, just call them if you need to, mention my name, and the forum - They both know I'm here!

I really struck gold with these two, they’re both top blokes, down to earth, understand tight budgets, and are generally great to be around. Dudes, the job they did before mine was for M**t L***e! Get my drift? Now as I’ve said many times before I’m not on commission, but fair’s fair, I’ve had many kind compliments about my build and none of it would have ended up the way it did if I hadn’t first met Jeff who, as you know, introduced me to Peter. :D

To maintain the more positive mood of this post, something exciting and scary! I have my first paid session here Friday week! * & *’s flagship docks next Thursday at Southampton and sails Saturday morning. Three of the cast from a show onboard that we supplied the music for, are coming here to do a shed load of vocal tracks, and anyone with a Great Britain road map will work out that junc 12 M3, is about 15 mins north of Southampton! Guess who’s gonna be busy with the soldering iron? :shock: :shock: :shock:

To conclude my good friends – Whilst I will always be totally indebted to everyone on this terrific forum for all the knowledge I’ve been able to acquire, (John, Glenn, Ken, Ro etc etc etc), the simple truth is that until you’ve heard it, it don’t mean Jack! Fellow UK’ers – Come take a gander, hell I can even see the roof of my local boozer from my upstairs landing! If you like, I’ll trade you, come see mine and I’ll come and see yours! I NEED WIT………………..sorry, nearly said it again. :oops: :oops: :wink:

More soon, video walkthrough still on the cards! Take care my friends,

Kind regards as always,

A much less depressed and frustrated,

Lou. 8)
PS - I might even post the final mix of next Friday's vocals to prove I did the wiring! :wink: :wink: :wink: :shock:
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Post by kendale »

Aloha Lou,

Hey, great to hear that things are sorting out. Looking forward to the vid & final mix! :D

Best of success!

Aloha 8)
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Post by padded cell »

when are you going to get a web site sorted?

and i would be honoured if Joe and myself could pop down next time we are down south, hes a cubase nut as well.

Iain

i am learning so much from your thread, its brilliant
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Post by johnp »

Hi Lou

Great to hear things are going well...and it looks fantastic :D

Looking forward to some more pics ;)

cheers
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Post by dvdhawk »

As someone else suggested, Lou's thread should be required reading for all forum users. Hats off to Lou and his mates for being so diligent with the details of the studio construction, as well as the dedication to taking very useful photos every step of the way. Thanks Lou - well done!
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Post by Lou »

Morning guys – I hope you’re all well as usual, and thought that after five weeks it was time to show you what I’ve been up to, and also try to provide some wiring detail for anyone that might need it. Many thanks again for the kind remarks chaps; you know it’s always appreciated. :wink:

Firstly though, a view you haven’t seen in its finished state. Front lobby through to control room.

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The live room was once again looking a total tip, but hey-ho, that’s progress apparently. :roll:

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Right then Lou, remove one of Jeff’s panels behind the desk and start pulling those darn cables through. :twisted:

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The first lot weren’t too bad, but then I had to get a grown up to help me with the rest! :oops:

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By taping them in a cone shape they eventually came through.

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Those jacks of course need to be cut off and re-soldered once they’ve been threaded through the glands at the bottom right of the panel.

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The small void between the front lobby and control room makes the perfect place to neatly store all the mic stands. :wink:

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Then it was time to set up my soldering station.

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Before getting to work on pulling the cables to the iso booth.

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Now at this point I’d already made up and wired in all four of the assignable sends from the master desk to the two inputs on each headphone amp, (one for live room and front lobby, the other for the iso booth and eventually the conservatory). The next job was to connect balanced jacks to the other end of the headphone feeds coming from the live room panel, so that these could then be plugged into the rear of the top jack bay.

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Then it was a simple case of patching some temporary patch leads from the bay to the individual inputs on the headphone amps.

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It was done this way since whilst the presonus is a great sounding unit, its headphone level outputs are on the front panel. At this point it was time to do a crude test to check all connections thus far – They’re all fine! I simply stripped the other ends and held them against a headphone jack. I cannot emphasise enough the importance of checking all your connections wherever possible as you go – It makes it so much easier to diagnose a problem should it arise. :wink:

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Now if you’re thinking that all this is going a little too smoothly, imagine my total horror when I realised that I’d stupidly put my high output gas iron on top of my workstation instead of the glass! :cry: :cry: :cry:

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I was absolutely gutted, but Sarah came to the rescue as you’ll see in a moment. :D

Now then for anyone who hasn’t wired up the back of a desk before this is how it’s done. Please bear in mind that in my situation (and I’m sure I’m not alone) I have virtually no access to the rear as the desks are so tight against the front wall, and there was no way they were coming out again. Firstly, pull through enough cable from the live room to enable you to work on it in the middle of the control room. Strip the 16 pair (in my case) back enough to cover the entire width of the desk you’re wiring to, hold all cores accross all chanels and accurately cut each one in numerical order, so that it lines up with its corresponding channel strip.

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In this case the cable was fed from right to left, and so, cable 1 was the longest and cable 24 (part of the other 16 pair) the shortest. Then thread all plastic sleeves onto the cables and secure in place with tape. There’s nothing worse than soldering the perfect connector to later realise that you’ve forgotten to thread the sleeves! :oops: :cry: :oops:

PS – If you look to the right of the cable by the iron, you can see how Sarah sorted out my burn mark. Now it’s barely visible – Nail file!!! :roll:

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Prepare and ‘tin’ all cable ends and connector terminals.

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Solder up the damn things.

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And you’re done right?

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Wrong – Here’s the fiddly bit, but it’s well worth it. Lace all cables together 5cm from the connector to allow enough room for the bend into the socket on the rear of the desk. This is possible because of the accurate cuts made earlier, i.e., all cables are shorter than each other by the same amount.

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You can see where this is going now, and you can also see that the calendar is telling me I’ve got two days left! Finally tidy up to make things look the part.

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The next step whilst insanely simple solves the access problem. Get someone to pull the 16 pair back through from the live room while you feed it from the control room, leaving enough showing to make the required connections. Very cramped, very awkward, but possible nonetheless. Top view.

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Bottom view, and you can see it’s starting to get crowded down here.

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Then I cracked on with the custom loom to connect the jack bay to the headphone amp. Since this will always be visible to the outside world, extra care was taken re cutting and lacing. :wink:

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Then it was on to the panels, first job is to number the back so that you don’t have to keep turning the panel over. :roll:

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Once you’ve wired everything you need for the first session, replace the panels, and go for a beer. Try not to get too depressed in the pub when you think about the fact that they’ve both gotta come off again, and that you’ve not even started on the racks yet! :cry: :cry:

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Introducing Andy – The guy who played drums on my album (awesome talent), and a part 17 certified electrician whose not bad with a soldering iron. He also kindly sourced my kit, so it was only fitting to get him to change and tune all my drum heads last Tuesday night! :D :D

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Then first thing Wednesday the panels were off again and all remaining cables pulled through – that was really hard work.

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Everything is threaded through the large straps, which, if you recall are screwed with cable tie mounts to the underside of the workstation.

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All cables now through both walls to both racks.

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Get the radio on, and just ‘get in there dudes’

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It was an exhausting couple of days, both physically and mentally – keeping a track of where everything was going, making sure Andy was remembering that pins 1 & 3 on an XLR plug appear to be reversed on an XLR socket etc etc. Then of course it was time to run all cables from the racks back to the desks. More ‘nerdy’ lacing then.

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Lunchtime on Thursday and Studio 4’s live room panel is finished.

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Snakes were wired up, laced and connected to the other desk as before and terminated to the patchbays. All I then had to do was make up more fully visible patch cords, only this time, with XLR’s. Once again (XLR) inputs to the Twintrack Pros are on the front panel. I enjoyed making these! :D :D

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The Voice Masters inputs are on the rear panel, so I was able to use both male and female XLR patchbays.

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And voila my friends – All done and dusted, with plenty of room for expansion if ever necessary. :D :D :D

Left hand rack, the wiring for the X3 (in the top 3U) is already done and routed back to the master desk.

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Right hand rack.

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That’s it for this one my friends, other than to say that everything has been tested, it all works perfectly, and there are NO hums, buzzes or indeed any unwanted noises anywhere. :D :D

After exactly 15 months to the day since it’s start, Studio 4 is, as they say in the words of a certain ‘Cool Aussie’…………….UP! :wink:

The final bit is all the mics, a cupboard to put them in, and of course to eventually fit out the kitchenette and decorate the toilet. Also I must one day wire in the conservatory, but I don’t need it to earn for now. Work has been non stop in the middle of all this and looks set to continue that way for the foreseable future.

It’s been a hell of a ride, but I offer heartfelt gratitude to the forum, the community, and all my new mates up here. :wink: :wink: :wink:

Take care dudes, final closing post to come, and the video walkthrough, promise! :wink:

Regards to you and yours as always,

Lou. 8)

P.S. The session went like a dream btw - I'm getting the better of the gear at last! :D :D 8) :wink:
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Post by doublehelix »

Haha Hey Lou. I saw a fatal error in the your design, and you need to tear it all down and start over!

or...

The city government called, and they are going to build a new highway that runs right through where your house currently sits. Construction starts next month. Move, or else! (of course they compensate you for your property).

Gotta start ALL OVER again!!! :lol:

Can you imagine???

The place looks great (of course), and your attention to detail is second-to-none! All of those soldering and wiring pictures look WAY TOO familiar! I have spent many, many hours behind the wheel of a soldering iron, and can sympathize! Imagine however if that burn mark was in your hand instead of the desk! (I have done that, as I am sure you have as well!) Good thing Sarah is around to rescue your butt, that is for sure!

I started a session about a month ago (pre-production), and then went right from that into a full-length album project (23 songs that will get whittled down to 10-12 for the album), and I still have not put the finishing touches on my place!

So, my advice: Do your best to get it done before you get too deep into recording projects, otherwise, it may never get finished!!!

Congratulations my friend! I know that for me, I can sit in my control room while the drums are blasting away on the other side of the glass in complete comfort, and it all becomes "worth it" at that point.

Here is to GREAT SUCCESS with Studio 4 for many years to come, and as always, all the best to you, Sarah, and the girls.
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Post by snowdog99 »

Congrats! I've been living vicariously through your build for some time now, and although my sense of relief can't possibly be the same as yours, there is an almost deep "exhalation" when I read your hard-fought successes.

One can see the sense of accomplishment and pride in the many pics you have posted- especially the ear-to-ear grin on you face in quite a few of the ones near the end of the work. :)

Now, in the ever-demanding world, gimme gimme... can't wait for the vid walkthrough, some audio demos, etc. You're such a tease Lou...

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Post by VK »

Fantastic, lou! The finishing... What can I say. Just stunning! All cables and everything. I wait to see the place totally finished, shiny and clean.

Hope you can really soon sit on your chair, look around and say, done!
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Post by jwl »

Lou, as always, mate, well done. Well done indeed. Truly this is one of the best examples I've seen on the forum, not only your studio, your Brit-Latvian craftsmanship, but also your thoroughness in documenting everything. This thread is a great resource! Thanks for your generosity!

Next time I get back to the UK, I'll buzz you for a tour of the place!

you have to post some recordings that you make in the place.... whatever. I'm a guitarist so I'd love to hear some solo acoustic guitar from your room!

Video tour will be great as well.
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Post by John Sayers »

Congratulations Lou - fantastic studio and a wonderful report on it's design and construction.

Best of luck with it mate :)

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Post by Lord Tim »

Wow, that's amazing stuff! The attention to detail of everything is just brilliant! :)

Congratulations!!
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