[rename] Lilith design Phase ( L Shape )

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Aloha,

Question: Are the areas indicated by red circles your monitor soffits?

If so, it appears that you have the room flipped around. :shock:

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hey guys,

gullfo-yes I will have the back three walls inside out and the wall opposite the glass door and front wall will be dry wall.
This next skp is an updated version with material walls

Kendal- flipped to yours yes, but does it matter? I kinda like the glass doors to be flush.
Plus the added room for insulation having the angled walls at the back.
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Vocal booth- went with a slightly bigger booth, so it can be used for guitar cabs ( with ties lines) or a vocalist who wants to hold the acoutic, violin blah blah. more elbow room.

Drum room- still thinking about putting in a stone or brick diffusion wall with the option of a heavy drape curtain that slides across to cover the surface.

Both these rooms will be a simple plasterboard- frame plus insulation-double plaster board wall structure. ( no nieghbours) with the parallel walls between the vocal booth and drum room "inside out walls" to avoid four leaf system

Still questioning the size of the control room?? It seems a bit big, eating into the tracking room size. Will have a look at a lower ratio design tonight.
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Hi,
The concrete guys turned up un-announced yesterday, so I have been forced into the construction forum a little prem!
I'm stressing out as I had to make a decision on where the conduit will be sunk in the slab for the LV wiring. Buy, cut and glue it together before they came back this morning.
I know my studio is a bit boring, but I'll start posting pic soon.
See you on the flip side, in the construction zone.
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Hi all,
Just a quick one. Re: the ceiling elevation.

Does the attached image look like an ok design for the ceiling.
It is a cross section. The speakers will be to the left of the picture. with the punters couch to the right.

The outer wall height is 2.8
Inner wall will only 2.5
Maximum internal height= 3m?

I want to get the heighest ceilings I can, but am worried about the angled sections front and back.

Q- are the angles right?

Q- What is the maxium span (AUST) that ceiling beams can run without supports? Ceiling will be 2 x 13mm sound chek
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[Rename] Lilith design phase (L Shape)

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Hi all,
Rather than asking design question in the construction forum, I thought I'd drag up my original post.
a little backwards in coming forwards.

HVAC?
I have just got a quote for a mini split system. set in the control room only.
And waiting on a quote for a full ducted system with return for the 3 rooms.
I don't think I will have the moneys or the 20amps available to go with the ducted system.
So this is want i'm thinking-
Cmp fan design-1.jpg
Using two large 120mm computer fans ( one inverted ) running off a small 12v power supply.
through the DYI silencers.
I'm hoping this with a small split system will been acceptable?
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Did you do your math, Lilith? Did you figure out the volume of air you need per hour to hit your necessary replacement rate? And does that setup with the fans provide the rate you need at high volume, low speed? Computer fans normally spin at high speed and make a noise....

Those would be the questions that I'd ask

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For a 1 person vocalbooth is might work, but for a volume like that? neh!
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I know! I know!
My gear came to 1012watts for the control room. plus 1-4 people.
It's hard to do this the cheap way(opening door) as the control room door leads into the drum room.
I'll see what the ducted quote comes in at...... :oops:
Any other DYI ideas??
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In-duct Sound Power Levels
LwdB re 1pW


63 125 250 500 1k 2k 4k
47 54 47 39 23 31 27 dB




A combination of two of these Fantech fans (suck and blown) Would produce 360m cubed/ hr.
It has 2 speeds, with an optional variable speed component.
is that more like it?
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Moving on to my drum room design!! yay

Notice there were a few ceiling question going on at the moment so here is mine...

Due to the non-square outer walls (1. need car space 2. to allow for vocal booth shape)
I'm having trouble with the truss design. There is only 1 right angle in the top left.
Drum room.jpg
This was my 1st idea as I'm thinking about have exposed beams to add a bit of character. But what happens to the right were the wall extends further. Should i splay the studs? But then the plasterboard will be hard to get right.
Or should I do it another way.
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I just realize my centres are wrong. The control room used 120mm x 35 stud, but I'm going with 90mm x 45 for the drum room due to dwindling funds!
So, the centre spaces should be 555mm but I forgot and it's 565 in the SKP.
You get the idea though :oops:
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here's how I'd build it Deanne
Deanne_2.skp
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Fantastic! thats great. So then only, the last section of plaster board will be cut at an angle.
Standard spacing on the rest.

Will I need to pre-cut the beams to sit flat on the top plate? That will need to be real accurate!!
Rafters Cut out.jpg
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John,
How come you didn't put any cross beam in that ceiling design, considerig that its like 4 meters span. I did something similar for my drum room at first and I was told it wouldnt work..
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