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Looks like after a wasted day, I was going to build my 2 long 4m walls but have serious space issues. I wont be able to build with plasterboard on the outside of the wall after all unless I made 2 stud frames per wall, there is no space to build them on the floor and lift. I can just about build the frame but its going to be awkward,

Has anyone tried building with 2 individual frames and join them together? Im worried that the strength of the 6X2 will kind of be wasted if im not using the whole 4m length and chopping it in half.

The walls are damn heavy as they are without 2 layers of board on them lol.

because of the Block column i am already losing loads of space and building around them is a real pain.

there is no space to build them on the floor and lift.

Why? Is the room too narrow to accommodate the height of the wall? Is that the problem?


- Stuart -

Soundman2020 wrote:

there is no space to build them on the floor and lift.

Why? Is the room too narrow to accommodate the height of the wall? Is that the problem?


- Stuart -

the room is 2.5 wide excluding the lost 110mm from the block work.

my walls are 2.3 tall its very tight.

Yesterday I had a discussion with a structural engineer yesterday.

He told me my A frame in the roof will easily hold the weight of 2 plaster board layers and insulation.

i am now thinking that a steel frame hung from the joists with the board added or hat channel and clips hung from the A frame

i would need to drop the height slightly anyway to meet the walls and seal the room.

has anyone had experience with light weight steel frame on the ceiling or channel + clips and insulation directly on top.

I have now roughly modeled the room

SOOO

I have not got very far with my build but have now had the realization I cannot not have access to my "loft space" I was trying to engineer some kind of loft hatch 4" think with plaster board and insulation like the ceiling but have decided against this. I will now have to make a hallway that I can access the roof space from and have updated my plans. (not much acoustic treatment in the plan yet)







It is not ideal having the odd shaped room but I have to be able to get to my ventilation and store a small amount of stuff now I am using the whole length of the garage

Im looking to use 6" inlet and outlets for the ventilation with a 400cm3 per hour fan, my room is approx 21m3 (very small)

this weekend I wil get building my frame again I have to modify the parts I have already made but best to get it done before its too late.

I have build all of my frame parts although they are not fixed in place yet. The base plates will be fixed to the concrete floor with 10mm 125mm concrete fixings.

My next planning is the Door and HRV / Fresh Air system.



I will be using a solid core fire door and need to plan the frame correctly. As you can see in the picture the frame the door will sit in will be quite small I have only constructed the base top and sides so far so I can get this right. I will use extra fixings on this wall as the door will add some movment if not tied in well.

Does anyone have a good frame idea? The door will be approx 2000 x 850 x 50mm thick. I will be getting a complete door with no holes so I can decide on the locking mech i will use. I plan to use hardwood and if needed will add extra layers.

The frame it will sit in is about 1280 X 2300 x 150mm

This build is very slow as I can only build when I am not at work and the money permits so I have time to correct mistakes hopefully with the help of this forum.

The "Hall way" is going to have to exist I cannot change that due to electrical, fire and loft access reasons.


For the ventilation I am looking at various HRV units with summer bypass to provide air I am not yet considering Aircon. In the UK its only hot for a few months and when I work will be maybe 5-6 hours per week. worst case I will replace the HRV later as I can reuse the ducting. The Air will be supplied from the pitch roof via a vent into 4" ducting and return will exhust through the garage door side. the unit I have looked at so far is only 100SQ M per hour and my room is approx 21 SQ M

sorry for the BUMP*

Any tips on the door?

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the frame the door will sit in will be quite small

Door frames cannot be small! They need to be massive. Normally there are at least three studs on each side (two kings and a jack) as well as a header with cripples, plus multiple noggins. That's the minimum. Like this:

I will use extra fixings on this wall as the door will add some movment if not tied in well.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that: How would it even be possible to build a door that was not firmly fixed into the wall?

I will be getting a complete door with no holes so I can decide on the locking mech i will use.

Your door should be solid core, not hollow, and you should drill any holes at all through it. Use only surface mounted handles, and an automatic door closer.

For the ventilation I am looking at various HRV units with summer bypass to provide air I am not yet considering Aircon. In the UK its only hot for a few months

Heat is not the issue. Humidity is. You live in the UK where humidity is pretty much always high outdoors, and you need to keep it at a constant 40% RH inside your studio, for your instruments, mics and gear..... An HRV unit does nothing at all to control humidity. Only a proper air conditioner can do that. Many people use mini-split systems for that in studios.

- Stuart -