Design with emphasis on Live Room?

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Design with emphasis on Live Room?

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Hi,

First Time, Long Time. It's really cool that this even exists.
So, I have a room that I use as a home studio and for my band to rehearse. It used to be completely carpeted (floor, walls, ceiling) and after reading this I ripped it all out and decided to start from scratch. I'm hoping to build a room with the emphasis on the live room instead of the control room. It's not the biggest space, but I do need it to house a 5-person band with all the gear, and a usable control room for live recordings of the band.
I've read a lot of contradicting posts on wether or not it's even worth dividing a room of this size so, I'm kind of confused with what to do.
I've enclosed a picture with my current ideas.
The existing room has one concrete block wall with a layer of sheetrock over it. The rest of the walls are standard walls made of wood frames and sheetrock. I'm not really worried about sound leaking out of the room as I don't have any neighbors near by, but I do want the room to record well with a live rock band.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

The room dimensions are 13'x28' with 7' ceilings. The front door are the double french doors at the bottom of the drawing. They lead to the rest of the house.

Also, what kind of wood would you usually use for a Slot Resonator? Does it matter?

Thanks so much,

Pete 8)
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Re: Design with emphasis on Live Room?

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Welcome Pete.
zoner79 wrote:what kind of wood would you usually use for a Slot Resonator? Does it matter?
Nope, it is the dimensions that matter.
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you could also consider turning the drum area slightly to give you an angled wall on the "cr" and adding slat resonators behind the drums to create a "booth". this way you'd get the trapping you'd need and have the drummer facing the band... wih a riser and overhead cloud to complete.
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Post by zoner79 »

Thanks for the great suggestion Gullfo. It looks like that should really work well without loosing too much space.

What do you think about any other wall treatments?
Should I use things like pyramid foam on the CR/Drumbooth wall to continue the booth, or are the slot resonators enough?

What about the rest of the walls in the live room, or the back walls in the control room? Would you reccomend any more slot resonators or paneling?

It's confusing sometimes with this size of a room, wether or not to make it sound live or dead because of the phase problems that can occur from recording instruments too close to walls.

Thanks so much for your help. It's greatly appreciated. :D

-pete
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i start with broadband slat resonators to build out the wall angles and get low-mid treatment. this keeps the room alive. then measure and treat as needed to quash any remaining echos, resonances, modes, and RT60. this could be foam products, tuned panels, more slats, 703 type absorbers and clouds, diffusers, etc. but i'd start with trying to get a live flat-response room and then deaden it down as needed or build reversible treatments to change it.
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How did you figure out the angles for the walls? Are they ballpark or is there an actual angle I should be following?

-pete
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as a general rule, an angle of 6 degrees or more should suppress flutter echos - about 1' per 10'. if you build treatment type walls - slat resonators, etc - you also gain broadband coverage because of the changing cavity depth - and to improve efficiencies - separate it into multiple cavities. angles on walls and treatments may also vary because of desired frequency or space requirements.
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