Room treatment idea...what do you think

Myriad_Rocker · Post by **Myriad_Rocker** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:08 am

Looking for any advice I can get. This is what I have so far. Let me know what you think or if I should make any adjustments.

The closet on the lower right is the vocal booth.
The black thing by the desk is a combo amp.
The transparent looking things are clouds.
All of this treatment will be made out of OC 703 2".

This is on the second floor of a house, by the way. Carpet flooring.

Sorry, I don't have the measurements of the room yet. I did this drawing at work.

The first picture is from above, of course.
The second picture is looking into the room.

bpape · Post by **bpape** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:56 am

Consider some panels straddling where the slanted ceiling meetes the flat ceiling. That's a good place to get absorbtion through the room length and also gain some bass absorbtion.

Bryan

Myriad_Rocker · Post by **Myriad_Rocker** » Sun May 21, 2006 10:08 am

Updated pictures...

Post by **kendale** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:57 pm

Aloha myriad,

Here's a couple more thoughts to ponder. In addition to the panels you've outlined, and due to the angle of your "side wall/ceiling" and "center section ceiling" areas around your mix position, you might want to consider putting up a few more panels (see attached.) Being that you are on the second floor, I would suggest considering the amount of weight you will be introducing to the structure.

Here's a few more bits of info I've gathered on setting up your mix position.

- monitors should not sit on the console but behind, placed on heavy decoupled stands - console placement causes early reflection problems in most cases, unless the console is slanted down in front a LOT.

- distance to wall behind speakers will change response drastically - there is a wall bounce calculator on the Acoustics forum that's fun to play with (needs Excel)

- Moving either speakers or your head by as little as an inch or two can sometimes make drastic changes in response, due to modal peaks and dips.

- Roughly 38% of the total room length from the front wall
- Equilateral triangle formed by left, right mix position
- Monitor angles 60 degrees
- Monitor height – woofer at ear level (avoid mid point of floor to ceiling measurement – either sit higher or lower if necessary)
- Angled side absorption panels – left/right of mix position
- cloud over mix position

If angling walls and ceilings:
- Side walls 6-12 degrees
- Ceiling 12 degree slope

Here's a couple of good places to start for ideas:
SAE Website: http://www.saecollege.de/reference_material/index.html
(be sure to click on the acoustics, absorbers, construction tabs at left, and tabs that appear at the top of the pages)
Wall Units - http://www.johnlsayers.com/HR/index1.htm
Recording Studio Design Forum Reference Area: http://johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2125
More Useful Links: http://www.johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1168

If you care to check out a couple of recent threads using these absorbers, try here: http://johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... ght=#15598 and here: http://johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4091

Hope this helps,

Aloha

Myriad_Rocker · Post by **Myriad_Rocker** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:17 am

kendale -

WOW....your reponse is much appreciated.

I have to wonder how much weight all of this abosorption will introduce into the second floor room.....I believe as long as I mount my frames (I'm framing most of the panels) to studs in the wall, I should be okay.

andrebrito · Post by **andrebrito** » Wed May 24, 2006 9:41 pm

According to some new acoustical studies the angle between monitors is now proposed to be 30 degrees

Post by **kendale** » Wed May 24, 2006 10:29 pm

Aloha,

Yes, that is what I mean, as in from the listening position, it's 60 degrees; which is technically 30 degrees each when building. My apologies if I was not very clear on that.

Aloha

Post by **kendale** » Thu May 25, 2006 8:10 am

Aloha,

I found a pic of what I was trying to describe. http://www.saecollege.de/reference_material/index.html (construction tab, speakers)

Hope this helps,

Aloha

knightfly · Post by **knightfly** » Thu May 25, 2006 6:06 pm

Kendale, I've found that with some sites (like SAE) you can RIGHT click on a tab, choose "Open in new window", and the direct link will open up - like

http://www.saecollege.de/reference_mate ... eakers.htm

Cuts down on a bit of typing...

Steve

Post by **kendale** » Thu May 25, 2006 8:41 pm

Aloha Steve,

Awesome! Thanks for the tip, Steve!

Aloha