recording school question
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dahdahdah
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recording school question
hey guys, im looking into studying recording sometime in the near future, and i came across the musicians institute... i'm wondering if anyone here has gone there or knows more about, it seems like a good program from what i've read...
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mixx
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make sure you find a school that teaches the art of listerning and recording and teaches the technology as a means to an end ..NOT an end in itself..I had many seconds who went to Full Sail, Berkley school of music,,high grades..technically more astute than me.but they never really made it past second engineer in a pro environment..it's art nor rocket science...except of technical service and studio design..[at least modern studio design]
i will be starting a recording arts program on the east coast of the US in early fall
i will be starting a recording arts program on the east coast of the US in early fall
30 years in and numerous awards and just learning simple wiring
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AVare
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Re: recording school question
Where are you? Musiician's Institiute is knida vague. In what country?dahdahdah wrote:hey guys, im looking into studying recording sometime in the near future, and i came across the musicians institute... i'm wondering if anyone here has gone there or knows more about, it seems like a good program from what i've read...
Andre
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Chippy569
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i was going to make another topic, but...
on a whim today I came across this, at Michigan Tech (where i could go to easy because of both reciprocity with MN and because my father is an alumni):
http://www.fa.mtu.edu/degree_flat.shtml
they offer a B.S. in audio production, as well as sound design.
so i've written them about it, asking for more info on the course... i'll let you know what I find.
http://www.fa.mtu.edu/degree_flat.shtml
they offer a B.S. in audio production, as well as sound design.
so i've written them about it, asking for more info on the course... i'll let you know what I find.
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jordya
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Be sure to find a program that offers a Bachelor's Degree. My degree is in Music Industry from MN State Moorhead. That allowed me to learn about the technical sides of the studio, plus the business side of music, plus I had to take 2 instruments and lessons...like a performace major.
A friend of mine went to Full Sail, got an internship in NYC, and watched as other engineers passed him up the ladder because of their bachelors degree. Also, a backround in electronics wont hurt either. The studios love engineers that can problem solve and fix gear.
A friend of mine went to Full Sail, got an internship in NYC, and watched as other engineers passed him up the ladder because of their bachelors degree. Also, a backround in electronics wont hurt either. The studios love engineers that can problem solve and fix gear.
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Chippy569
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jordya, you live near me, i'm in maple grove... i'm very interested in the class you took! could you email me with some more info?
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This is what MTU wrote back to me:
David:
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. We have been
gearing up for the beginning of the semester.
We have three degree paths in audio.
Path 1: If you want to design and build equipment: speakers,
amplifiers, mixers, DSP. You should get an engineering degree
(Electrical, Computer or Mechanical) and a minor in Music
Technology. This gives you the in-depth engineering chops you will
need as well as ear training and an understanding of how audio
technology is used.
Path 2: If you want to be an audio/visual systems consultant, a
sound tech on tours (Rock concerts, Musicals), do high end home
theatre installation, consult on concert hall sound systems. We
reccomend the BS degree in Audio Production and Technology. This
degree is almost 50% Fine Arts and 50% either Electrical Engineering
Technology or Computer Science.
Path 3: If you want to run recording session, mix live bands, design
sound for Theatre, Movies, Theme Parks, Video Games, Mall Stores,
Restaurants, etc. Than we recommend the the BA Degree in Sound
Design. This degree focuses on the artistic side of audio while
still requiring around 25 credits of Engineering coursework to insure
that you can realize you artistic vision.
These degree programs are new this year and focus on making you a
well rounded audio professional. We are not a recording program.
There are very few positions in recording studios and lots of
programs to prepare you to do that. Our program is not one of
those. We prepare you to work with artists in a broader context
taking care of there recordings as well as there live sound and
picking up other design gigs on the side. This is how many in the
field are making a living today and insures that you have the
flexibility to respond to changing employment in the audio industry
I am in charge of the programs. I have done sound for over 5,000
live events, designed Theatrical sound for over 60 productions, and
keep busy designing and building speakers in my spare time.
I recommend that you take a wide variety of the most challenging
courses you can in High School. Music and circuits courses are of
course useful as is Math, Physics and English. The more you want to
be involved in the art of audio the more classes you need to take.
As an artist you have to understand the technical systems, analyze
the lyrics and relate them to the musical structure and then capture
that relationship through an understanding of transducers and
acoustics. If the class has a good teacher you will probably find
it useful as an artist.
Good luck with your choice.
Christopher Plummer
Assistant Professor, Sound Design
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This is what MTU wrote back to me:
David:
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. We have been
gearing up for the beginning of the semester.
We have three degree paths in audio.
Path 1: If you want to design and build equipment: speakers,
amplifiers, mixers, DSP. You should get an engineering degree
(Electrical, Computer or Mechanical) and a minor in Music
Technology. This gives you the in-depth engineering chops you will
need as well as ear training and an understanding of how audio
technology is used.
Path 2: If you want to be an audio/visual systems consultant, a
sound tech on tours (Rock concerts, Musicals), do high end home
theatre installation, consult on concert hall sound systems. We
reccomend the BS degree in Audio Production and Technology. This
degree is almost 50% Fine Arts and 50% either Electrical Engineering
Technology or Computer Science.
Path 3: If you want to run recording session, mix live bands, design
sound for Theatre, Movies, Theme Parks, Video Games, Mall Stores,
Restaurants, etc. Than we recommend the the BA Degree in Sound
Design. This degree focuses on the artistic side of audio while
still requiring around 25 credits of Engineering coursework to insure
that you can realize you artistic vision.
These degree programs are new this year and focus on making you a
well rounded audio professional. We are not a recording program.
There are very few positions in recording studios and lots of
programs to prepare you to do that. Our program is not one of
those. We prepare you to work with artists in a broader context
taking care of there recordings as well as there live sound and
picking up other design gigs on the side. This is how many in the
field are making a living today and insures that you have the
flexibility to respond to changing employment in the audio industry
I am in charge of the programs. I have done sound for over 5,000
live events, designed Theatrical sound for over 60 productions, and
keep busy designing and building speakers in my spare time.
I recommend that you take a wide variety of the most challenging
courses you can in High School. Music and circuits courses are of
course useful as is Math, Physics and English. The more you want to
be involved in the art of audio the more classes you need to take.
As an artist you have to understand the technical systems, analyze
the lyrics and relate them to the musical structure and then capture
that relationship through an understanding of transducers and
acoustics. If the class has a good teacher you will probably find
it useful as an artist.
Good luck with your choice.
Christopher Plummer
Assistant Professor, Sound Design
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jordya
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Hey Chippy. Nice to meet someone in the neighborhood. Any damage to your house from the storm last week?
As for the class I took, I think the program has changed slightly, but it was a BM in Music Industry. I had to learn tech courses, business courses, and music classes and 2 instruments. Basically, a performance degree with technical and business stuff as well. It is great because it lets you stay with the performing side while learning how to record and the science of sound.
the link is here: http://www.mnstate.edu/music/degrees/degrees.html
Jordy
As for the class I took, I think the program has changed slightly, but it was a BM in Music Industry. I had to learn tech courses, business courses, and music classes and 2 instruments. Basically, a performance degree with technical and business stuff as well. It is great because it lets you stay with the performing side while learning how to record and the science of sound.
the link is here: http://www.mnstate.edu/music/degrees/degrees.html
Jordy