Studio design question

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tmay4
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Studio design question

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Attached I have a picture of my studio that Iam not remolding. Iam renting a building suite which 1100sq feet, but I only attached a picture of the control room and booth. It not very good, I did it on paint shop. My question is with my proposed desgin what will be the best way for to properly treat the room. I will be doing hop and and RnB music. The walls are basically brick with attached studs with insulation and sheetrock connected to it. The ceiling is the Square tile ( iam not sure what you call them) but I look for the best treatment that I can do to the room. Iam not really looking into keeping noise in , but to deaden the room to create accurate mixes, if anyone out there could help you imput would be appreicated thanks
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Post by AVare »

Iam not really looking into keeping noise in , but to deaden the room to create accurate mixes, if anyone out there could help you imput would be appreicated thanks
Nice sized space you have. Have you looked and studied the studios in the "studios under construction" section at the beginning of this sight?

The general guidelines are, in no particular order, and hopefully in english:

splayed side walls beside monitors
low mid absorption on side walls
low end absorption in back wall
absorptive ceiling.

There are many exceptions depending on the specific situation.

Generally, try and shoot for a RT60 .25s flat across the frequency spectrum as much as possible.

Good luck!
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Post by tmay4 »

Hey thanks for the reply. Ian kinda new to this. I have worked in numerous studios, but now since I have made a bit of money i am looking to get my own place, iam new to this so I really don't undertand, you said

splayed side walls beside monitors
low mid absorption on side walls
low end absorption in back wall
absorptive ceiling.

can you elaborate a little bit moe for me thanks
I have a lot of the top of the line equipment but I looking for the right construction of the studio to complement my equipment.
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splayed side walls beside monitors
low mid absorption on side walls
low end absorption in back wall
absorptive ceiling.
splayed side walls beside monitors
The walls beside the speakers are angled too prevent early reflections in the listening area.
low mid absorption on side walls
The side walls have sound absorbers that are effective in the mid low range of frequencies
low end absorption in back wall
Low frequency absorbers are bigger, so they are usually put in the back wall.
absorptive ceiling
The ceiling does not reflect sound. Sometimes this is only in the area where the reflections would enter the listening are. Sometimes the ceiling is angled for the same reason.

I forgot to add, diffusers on the rear wall also.

Sometimes low end absorption is put in the front corners also.

If you go through the "Studios Under Construction" section, look at the drawings and pictures, you will see things.

I hope this helps.
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Post by tmay4 »

Okay thanks for clearing this up.

My question to you is before I get to deep into construction I want to do it right. I only completed putting up about 35% of the sheet rock. and I want to know what will be the best route to go in treating the room. I hear all those foam pad thingy are a waste of money. Can you tell me what will be the best kind to use

and for flooring. Some people to me carpet and the other tell me woodfloor, what will you recommend for this room.

and a far as the ceiling. How would you treat that. The ceiling is compose of the long square tile that you push up and see in to the loft but I don't know there name. Thanks.

I have also seen people build square boxes with a special material covering that and place those on the wall, will that be best
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Post by knightfly »

It's good that you want to learn BEFORE building - it's much easier than tearing out things and starting over, especially with the cost of materials getting so ridiculous -

I can also tell that you would benefit a lot from studying this site for several hours -

http://www.saecollege.de/reference_material/index.html

There is the equivalent of a course at a full-blown media college available there, just click on EVERYTHING and read til your head explodes, then repeat when you're able.

These resources are put here so you can get answers to most of your questions without one of us needing to type a complete book in answer to every member's questions - I'm not trying to be harsh, it's just that there are only three of us moderating this site and it's a FREE resource, meaning we don't get paid so have to work elsewhere - because of that, our time is limited :cry: - so any self-education you can do by checking out what's already here is that much more time we can spend on questions that AREN'T covered in existing material.

Here's a start on treatment options, if you're able to build things instead of buying -

http://www.johnlsayers.com/HR/index1.htm

And yes, there are better things than foam for most applications - specifically rigid fiberglass or mineral wool for acoustic absorption, and plain old fiberglass batt insulation (inside of walls only) works almost as good as rigid fiberglass.

Check out the "sticky's", especially "complete section" and the one on floated floors, for more info - these won't eliminate your questions, just change them some -

That's about all the time I have for now, if you can study the areas I mentioned we'll both be ahead... Steve
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Post by AVare »

My question to you is before I get to deep into construction I want to do it right. I only completed putting up about 35% of the sheet rock.
STOP BUILDING RIGHT NOW!

I have read and been with too many people who with the best of intents have destroyed the acoustic properties of their buildings by not understanding the principkes involved.

Steve's advice is correct, Read everything here and on related links. My thoughts are take two weeks of research. So what if it delays your project by two weeks? You willl have a proper studio for years.

A saying that I learned years ago. "Why do people not have the the time to do it right the first time, but always have the time to fix it later?"
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